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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 10:07 PM
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Ok I. Have a 94 accord 2.2 wanted to make it a quick get up and goer nothing to much like a turbo I was thinking mild cam and fuel.rail. Bored heads. Valves and a cam gear also a h22 tranny and ecu and ofcorse headers and cat back and dyno other suggestions should I.do a differential or gears or something
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 10:17 PM
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jerry crAwler 270 cams, big nouth throttle body. chip. tune, and injectors.
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 10:18 PM
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i had a f22a all motor that dynoed at 276hp at 6700 and 255 lb ft trq at 6000
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 11:40 PM
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i had a f22a all motor that dynoed at 276hp at 6700 and 255 lb ft trq at 6000
I.was woindering what basic components do u have
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Old Feb 13, 2013 | 11:42 PM
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jerry crAwler 270 cams, big nouth throttle body. chip. tune, and injectors.
What kind of chip and what type.of.tune
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 07:37 AM
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Ok I.
OK, you.

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Have a 94 accord 2.2 wanted to make it a quick get up and goer
give a little more description of what a "quick get up and goer" means to you. Safely merge with fast moving traffic? Hoon around on the weekends? push the limits on mountain roads? weekend warrior autocrossing or 1/4 runs? impress your V8 friends...?

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nothing ... like a turbo I was thinking mild cam
I wouldn't recommend it unless it's the 2.2 VTEC. if non-vtec (and you plan to keep it that way) you're better off with the 93 top end as a starting point. or one of the prelude twin cam heads. then you can start researching cam profiles available. Web, Bisimoto, Delta, ect.

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...and fuel.rail.
i'm thinking no need.

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Bored heads.
rethink that one.

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...Valves and a cam gear.
bigger valves? flat face? why valves? cam gear is a must for the regrind and tune.

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also a h22 tranny and ecu.
H22 ECU, or chipped ECU? why not just do a complete H22 swap?

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...should I.do a differential or gears or something.
wouldn't that be part of the H22 trans swap, to have better gearing?

it sounds like you need to educate yourself a little more and be clear about your goals before requesting a spoon-feeding here.
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 08:46 AM
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Well thats y I came here this is my firsy honda and yes its the vtec and all I wamt it to do is just down shift and just take off and burn out with eaz like I aleays see hondas down shift while slready going and the peel out just a little something you know like 400 horsrs
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 08:53 AM
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Basically like u said push the limits of the mountain I live in a little town called hemet has alot of curves I want to be able to take it all the way to 6500_7500 rpms like 80-100 third gear idk if that was clear enough
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 09:00 AM
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I just need a neighbor or something thst knows hondas and I was thinking about the h22 but someone told me to leave my block and just grab a h head with vtec series and grab the tranny and ecu wich would be better to save money get a chip or swap ecu for h22 ecu I think the ecu and tranny would be good together? no? they were matched with eachother by honda
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 09:05 AM
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I mean ive gone 135 in it stock all I have is stage 2 clutch ,aem intake ,wire tuck and some of the engine bay cleared all I have is power stering and ac left and some vacum lines but thats it I dud alk the work my self
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 09:17 AM
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...all I wamt it to do is just down shift and just take off and burn out with eaz ... just a little something you know like 400 horsrs
please see the turbo section. see this link for the scale - skill level you should be working with.


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I mean ive gone 135 in it stock all I have is stage 2 clutch ,aem intake ,wire tuck...
oh...
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 02:56 PM
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is that bad and that link is about a f23 ihave af22 isthat the same
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Old Feb 14, 2013 | 03:04 PM
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is that bad and that link is about a f23 ihave af22 isthat the same
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 03:11 AM
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is that bad and that link is about a f23 ihave af22 isthat the same
not neccessarily, just seems an unusual combination and statement..

essentially they are the same. F23 has a larger bore (by 1mm), longer stroke, different main and rod bearing sizes. but, the block castings are nearly identical, enough to be interchangeable so long as the rotating assembly remains unchanged. the information in that thread can be almost directly applied to your situation. you may need to find a different rotating assembly that what he used... but you would probably do that anyway.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Michaelcooney12
Well thats y I came here this is my firsy honda and yes its the vtec and all I wamt it to do is just down shift and just take off and burn out with eaz like I aleays see hondas down shift while slready going and the peel out just a little something you know like 400 horsrs
This is why people hate stereotypical Honda drivers right here.

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I just need a neighbor or something thst knows hondas and I was thinking about the h22 but someone told me to leave my block and just grab a h head with vtec series and grab the tranny and ecu wich would be better to save money get a chip or swap ecu for h22 ecu I think the ecu and tranny would be good together? no? they were matched with eachother by honda
H head swap are horrible ideas, they have low compression are aren't a direct bolt on.
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 10:59 AM
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H head swap are horrible ideas, they have low compression are aren't a direct bolt on.
Please elaborate. H-series heads are meant to be used with higher domed pistons, so yes it will lower compression if you keep your stock pistons. but if a turbo is planned for... what isn't direct about the bolting on?
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Michaelcooney12
I mean ive gone 135 in it stock all I have is stage 2 clutch ,aem intake ,wire tuck and some of the engine bay cleared all I have is power stering and ac left and some vacum lines but thats it I dud alk the work my self
But yet it is not fast enough, if you can push 135 in it then you should be able to spin the tires and all that 18 year old crap. 400hp with no turbo, know it has been done or close to it any way.

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This is why people hate stereotypical Honda drivers right here.
Yep one of the big reasons..
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 10:22 PM
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Please elaborate. H-series heads are meant to be used with higher domed pistons, so yes it will lower compression if you keep your stock pistons. but if a turbo is planned for... what isn't direct about the bolting on?
What if I get a f23 block since the bore is one more mm bigger wouldn't that be better for the bore
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hondamark35
Please elaborate. H-series heads are meant to be used with higher domed pistons, so yes it will lower compression if you keep your stock pistons. but if a turbo is planned for... what isn't direct about the bolting on?
What if I get the v6 my buddy was talking about smashing people even h22 s
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Old Feb 16, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by hondamark35
Please elaborate. H-series heads are meant to be used with higher domed pistons, so yes it will lower compression if you keep your stock pistons. but if a turbo is planned for... what isn't direct about the bolting on?
I highly doubt this kid is going to be doing anything out of bolt-ons anytime soon. The bore on the H head is larger as well. Then you need to plug one of the oil gallery's between the block and the head. Just a lot of work when you can buy a JDM H22a with all MATCHING parts and be ready to roll as soon as its bolted in.
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