On an F22B2 Accord, I need help on making this car a decent Naturaly Aspirated.
Now tell me if this theory works. Your thoughts

F22B2 basically have a 130 hp foundation.

CAI - 4hp
Headders- 6hp
Exhaust -5 hp
Upgraded ignition - 2 HP
Advance timing - 1 hp
Port and matched H22 throttle body, 1 hp
port and polished - 2 hp
HV fuel rails/press. regulator - 4 HP
High comp. pistons - 5 hp
Advance ECU - 13 hp

um...anything I'm missing?
Are these numbers accurate?

Weight saving: Back seat can go. Um...what else.

 

High compression pistons should get you more than 5 hp...depending on what compression you run

you forgot a CAM that is worth 10 hp a cam gear is worth 4-5 hp

a ported and polished head would net you probably 10 hp with a good cam

 

yeah, H22a. +70hp.

 

CAI = 2hp (maybe)
header = 2hp
exhaust = 5hp
upgraded ignition = 0hp
advance timing = -2hp
throttle body = 2hp
now with P&P, you'll see some noticable gains, but you'll see more gains just by tuning the A/F w' a VAFC or something of the like...

 

remember that advancing your timing on our cars will help low end, but take away from your high-end... if you do anything, retarding your timing a bit may help...

also, remember that on N/A cars, upgraded ignitions won't yield any power, and fuel rails aren't necessary either...

 

Yeah like 01GSR said, bumping up the CR and a port/polish will give you a lot more than you posted.
It's not unheard of for each of these mods to be worth 10~15 HP alone. Of course your results may vary.

Too bad all this work just might get you to the baseline of the H motor for almost as much as a swap. But hey LoudAccord, let's stop encouraging people to get H22s because we're getting less-and-less unique!

 

Just because CAI, exhaust, and headers are each advertised to give you a few hp each, when put together, you cant just add them all up. All together, they may be good for 7hp and not 4+6+5. Ignition wont do anything.

 

zex kit = 55,65,75 hp. Thats what i did to my f22b2

 

Read the title.

 

Okay, that's cool. This may sound a little dumb but what is VAFC? I would buy an H22A but you guys want to stay unique he he. Plus, I prefer to start working on the Accord and things to learn how to do these things. No fun just dropping in a new engine, or taking it to the shop. I want a N/A engine. Real power when I need it. I would like N20 but everyone is going crazy with those, and I'm not really in the mood for it. I mean yeah the tanks in the back of the car look cool but I'm more interested in True performance of a car. Not extra boosts.

 

a Apex VAFC enables you to manipulate the air fuel mixture, and your VTEC crossover point, which I just realized wouldn't do you any good since you don't have VTEC. But Apex does make a SFC that still allows you to adjust the a/f mixture over the entire RPM band...

 

How much would this little device be. Coolness. I fear that at high r.p.m.'s I'd run a bit lean.

 

you'd have to shop around a bit, but i'm sure you can find one for less than 320...

 

here is my dyno tune with my vafc... it is worth it.

 

What's the most wheel hp have you guys heard an H22 can be N/A tuned to still being streetable and not stroked?


[Modified by Mugen Power, 4:36 PM 2/15/2002]

 

all right guys correct me if i'm wrong. on the h22a it comes stock @220p.s....which is equivalent to 217hp. now my question is why are all of u with this swap on your accord have less than 200hp. is this because of year of engine that u have cause i believe these specs are for 97 and up. if i'm wrong i'm sorry.

 

2point6 is putting down good numbers. the JDM h22a has 200hp... the type S engine has 220ps. most people on here dont have the type-s engine.

 

sorry, but BS

I don't know when the last time I saw a Honda gain more on an exhaust than on an intake or header....MUCH LESS both combined...where's the dyno charts to back up your info?

 

ok, i will get ugly here since i've been modifying my car before probably all of you... (5 years now)... sure, everything is in collaboration with each other, but how else can you test and put out #s on actual power gains... the fact of the matter is this: intake (almost no power gain), header (a bit of mid-range), and finally the exhaust (much more power overall)...

as for the rest, i've tuned my car on a dyno in August 99, May 01, and Jan 02... all have proved how playing with you cam and ignition timing, as well as your A/F ratios affect your performance... you want more evidence, then give me a f*ing scanner

 

Easy there buddy

 

is there a reason why u guys don't have the type-s. the reason i ask is because i'm thinking of dropin in an h22a type-s.


a penny for your thoughts

 

would you pay over $2000 for about 17hp? it is about 2Gs more

 

not to be an ***, but most of the archived topics and currents ones posted by guys/girls that have an h22 have only around 175 to like 185 with no mods. so i would pay the extra $2000 grand for 217hp. however the place i found an h22 at was only around 3200 for a complete swap, is that a normal price for them.


a penny for your thoughts

 

it is not 217 at the wheels... when you look at the 175-185, that is at the wheels. I have 178.3hp at the wheels. the type S engine will prob put about 188 or so hp to the wheels. so 10 wheel hp for 2 grand is not too good. I got my engine for 2100, and a type S engine is about 4500 or so.

 

thanx loudaccord now i know i can get the same performance without spending the extra $$. may i ask where u bought your h22?