<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by afro sheen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so you're saying you hate several people in this thread? (including jimmy, miko, and macho because i know their not stupid enough to illegal street race) last time i checked, several other prominant names in here dont race either
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i word things wrong alot, just found taht out... but basically i dislike when people get racing parts like roll cages harness's or anything thats major thats ment to do something when its bought for show, like hey this roll cage would give me major props if i throw it in my car for the show

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by afro sheen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
hard parking doesnt technically mean you have to drive it everyday. it just means you have to race it</TD></TR></TABLE>

wait i was always told that hard parkers dont do **** but show with their cars tuned for the track

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slo-EG1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wait i was always told that hard parkers dont do **** but show with their cars tuned for the track</TD></TR></TABLE>
ah, see i word things incorrectly too, nice catch

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slo-EG1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> but basically i dislike when people get racing parts like roll cages harness's ...</TD></TR></TABLE>
i dont know if these thought processes went through jimmy's and macho's mind when they decided to put those parts on their cars (sorry to call you guys out, im just trying to prove a point and let hard parkers do their **** and waste their money the way they want to waste it )

 

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i dont know if these thought processes went through jimmy's and macho's mind when they decided to put those parts on their cars (sorry to call you guys out, im just trying to prove a point and let hard parkers do their **** and waste their money the way they want to waste it )</TD></TR></TABLE>

like ill still like a nicely tuned car, it just is alot better in my mind if its being pushed some way or another

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by imm0rt41 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha yeah, the HX wheels don't fit over the VTEC brakes in front though
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haha omg i just put my hx wheels on my sol and didnt drive it. then i read your post just now and tryed to push my car with no LUCK! haha **** whats the best way to make the hx wheels fit?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chads &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha omg i just put my hx wheels on my sol and didnt drive it. then i read your post just now and tryed to push my car with no LUCK! haha **** whats the best way to make the hx wheels fit? </TD></TR></TABLE>

damn dude hope you find a cheap solution

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Slo-EG1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">like ill still like a nicely tuned car, it just is alot better in my mind if its being pushed some way or another</TD></TR></TABLE>
so do you hate people that swap b18c5s and k20s into their cars and dont race? im not picking on you im just asking a question. because i know a person that is doing a swap soon! and no its not me because i dont think id waste that kind of money on my sol

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by afro sheen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so do you hate people that swap b18c5s and k20s into their cars and dont race? im not picking on you im just asking a question. because i know a person that is doing a swap soon! and no its not me because i dont think id waste that kind of money on my sol </TD></TR></TABLE>

if they arent going to push it, then i frown upon it... i guess thats prob the best way to put it... like ill still be like nice swap if done right, but seroucly whats the point in throwing money to the engine if you arent going to push it?... that and i think k series is over-rated for the price... havent heard of any major hp's with that cost

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by chads &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">haha omg i just put my hx wheels on my sol and didnt drive it. then i read your post just now and tryed to push my car with no LUCK! haha **** whats the best way to make the hx wheels fit? </TD></TR></TABLE>
5mm wheel spacers

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by skip.two &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">5mm wheel spacers</TD></TR></TABLE>this is the easiest way to do it, but if you go with spacers get some extended wheel studs pressed in. When you use a spacer it puts all of the force on the ends of the studs which will eventually lead to them snapping. I found this out the hard way when I bought my other sol

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by afro sheen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dont know if these thought processes went through jimmy's and macho's mind when they decided to put those parts on their cars (sorry to call you guys out, im just trying to prove a point and let hard parkers do their **** and waste their money the way they want to waste it )</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok..first things first..i do race my car..on the street/fwy..when someone revs me up on my way to/from work..therefore i "street race"..but not to the point where i go out late at night..meet up with all my friends and drag race my car there "illegally"..and i do love to hug the living **** out of the fwy on/off ramps..so technically i have built my car for those purposes..it hasnt seen a track since its damn near 2 or 3hrs away and i dont feel like breaking down at the track..then having to tow my car home..as to where if i do what i posted above..its all local..it isnt as bad..

on the roll cage subject..i did put that cage in there for "safety"..and at the same time it really stiffened up the chassis..it obviously didnt have padding because i dont dramatically fly around corners to the point where i can roll over lol..although if i did get in a accident(flat ground)..and i had the cage in there..it would decrease the chances of us(me and my gf) getting hurt really bad..and a lowered car is harder to roll over rather than being stock height etc..

reasons why i took out my roll cage..
1. i couldnt put up my jdm sun visors all the way up like they would normally be without the cage..and since i daily..i dont like the sun in my eyes and i dont normally wear sun glasses..
2. it was a bolt on..therefore every once in a while i would have to tighten up all the bolts and i found that to be a pain in the ***..
3. i couldnt open my glovebox..
4. it would slightly "squeak" when the bolts would start getting a little loose..
5. im sure there a lot more reasons but i cant remember and im getting tired of typing out this damn paragraph cuz i know you guys arent gonna read every damn thing word for word

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RARE_EG2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.when someone revs me up on my way to/from work..therefore i "street race"..but not to the point where i go out late at night..meet up with all my friends and drag race my car there "illegally"

..and i do love to hug the living **** out of the fwy on/off ramps

it hasnt seen a track since its damn near 2 or 3hrs away and i dont feel like breaking down at the track..then having to tow my car home..as to where if i do what i posted above..its all local..it isnt as bad..
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yea i have to admit i am the occasional racer like you to... just more of trying to defend the jdm scene when a ricer comes up with a tuned car that still cant beat my barely engine tuned car, and i have the s model...

but i know what you mean about those ramps ... and about the distance of the tracks in my area


thats why i try to stick to auto crossing ... expletive someone grab page ownage for me

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RARE_EG2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">reasons why i took out my roll cage..
1. i couldnt put up my jdm sun visors all the way up like they would normally be without the cage..and since i daily..i dont like the sun in my eyes and i dont normally wear sun glasses..
2. it was a bolt on..therefore every once in a while i would have to tighten up all the bolts and i found that to be a pain in the ***..
3. i couldnt open my glovebox..
4. it would slightly "squeak" when the bolts would start getting a little loose..
5. im sure there a lot more reasons but i cant remember and im getting tired of typing out this damn paragraph cuz i know you guys arent gonna read every damn thing word for word </TD></TR></TABLE>Also,

6. It will rattle over bumps if you are going quick enough and the bolts are loose
7. They make seat belts tighter, making the need for a harness even more
8. make getting into the car a chore and for dailying this sucks
9. can't use the rear bins in my case meaning no CD storage or anything like that
10. hinders seeing out the back window if you have one of them nifty wide angle mirror things

I could go on for hours. ****, this is actually making me want to remove the Cusco...oh wait I have two sols so it don't matter

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by imm0rt41 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...oh wait I have two sols so it don't matter </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

yeah seeing is how rollcages are illegal in your daily driver because if you're involved in a serious car accident (lane is too cool to have to worry about his one) then the fire fighters will have more steel to cut through. and also, if it is a bolt in, they are not as strong as the mandrel-bent/welded ones at the mounting points

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by afro sheen &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yeah seeing is how rollcages are illegal in your daily driver because if you're involved in a serious car accident (lane is too cool to have to worry about his one) then the fire fighters will have more steel to cut through. and also, if it is a bolt in, they are not as strong as the mandrel-bent/welded ones at the mounting points</TD></TR></TABLE>Yup, I don't wreck anymore

You do know I am welding the cusco in the car, right? And since I won't be driving it everyday, chances of getting in a wreck go down quite a bit.

Why's everyone sippin' on the haterade tonight?

 

thanks Josh and Lane for understanding where i come from ..and Terrence..i dont feel like arguing tonight..so ill be the first to stop

 

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Why's everyone sippin' on the haterade tonight? </TD></TR></TABLE>

seroucly ... its miko's fault

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RARE_EG2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks Josh and Lane for understanding where i come from ..and Terrence..i dont feel like arguing tonight..so ill be the first to stop </TD></TR></TABLE>

no prob... it def sucks about not having a track near by... althou if i did live near one i prob would have already wrecked my sol and/or spent all my money tracking it

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RARE_EG2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

ok..first things first..i do race my car..on the street/fwy..when someone revs me up on my way to/from work..therefore i "street race"..but not to the point where i go out late at night..meet up with all my friends and drag race my car there "illegally"..and i do love to hug the living **** out of the fwy on/off ramps..so technically i have built my car for those purposes..it hasnt seen a track since its damn near 2 or 3hrs away and i dont feel like breaking down at the track..then having to tow my car home..as to where if i do what i posted above..its all local..it isnt as bad..

on the roll cage subject..i did put that cage in there for "safety"..and at the same time it really stiffened up the chassis..it obviously didnt have padding because i dont dramatically fly around corners to the point where i can roll over lol..although if i did get in a accident(flat ground)..and i had the cage in there..it would decrease the chances of us(me and my gf) getting hurt really bad..and a lowered car is harder to roll over rather than being stock height etc..
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i think a lot of people in here are kinda like these,they'll do an occasional run on the street if it feels somewhat safe to do so and go on some spirited driving whenever they see a few corners up ahead. I doubt anyone on this website drives the speed limit day in an day out and goes easy through a wide open sweeping turn,instead just waiting till the next autox/track event to enjoy their car

the safety thing about rollbars and cages on this website is really annoying to me lately. I have never seen a thread yet about someone being killed by a cusco cage in a t-bone accident and so on. I have however seen a cusco cage bolted in,save a life,in a huge accident with a turbo hatch locally. I've also seen a car with a fake bride seat from ebay withstand a huge impact and the seat did not fail like 95% of people on here will tell you it does. Half of the people who say this rollbar will hurt you or this cage will hurt you ( no offense terrance) dont even have a rollbar or a cage,or have been personally involved in any sort of traffic with either. Hell if we're gona argue cages,lets argue aftermarket suspensions too stiff for the street or too undervalved or cars too low without enough suspension travel. I mean any of this stuff can be a factor. A guy on here named jeremy or something wrecked a clean *** hatchback when the stiffness of his rear suspension caused him to lose control when he hit a dip on the highway and ended up under a semi truck. I mean,if we're gona argue one thing,lets do everything.

so,on that note,Lets just leave the bs alone,if someone likes it in their car,let them rock it,IM SURE,everyone in this thread is is generally aware of the safety standards and POSSIBLE risk involved with some parts,but they like that stuff enough to take that little bit of risk,so just let it be.


edit: I think I see some grammar errors,but just off a 12 hour shift,so bite me

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOLtrain &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I have however seen a cusco cage bolted in,save a life,in a huge accident with a turbo hatch locally. </TD></TR></TABLE>Dude, I saw that post, and that car was just plain fucked up. Had he not had that cage in there he would have been crushed by the roof

 

here's a picture of me hard-parking.



yeah, i'm a ricer.

 

well said Chacha ..and Lane..ive seen that thread too about that hatch

 

oh, and here's a picture of the offramp

not me driving



(for those of you that arent familiar, that turn is called "the off ramp" at buttonwillow)

 

went from this



to this



and yes it needs different wheels, but these were free so im not complaining.

 

nice progress

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Del_Sol_s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">went from this

to this

and yes it needs different wheels, but these were free so im not complaining.</TD></TR></TABLE>Looks great! Is that a Carbon Fiber hood? If so it fits real nice