whats missing?
i wasnt really a turbo guy, just happened recently. now im actually considering boosting
what i want to know is whats missing in a totally complete kit in order to have a fully running turbo bone stock jdm itr. currently have a exedy stage 1 clutch which i think wont hold 300-350whp which is what i only want.
Stage 1GT AC Turbo Kit is designed for the street/strip racer who is looking for instant spool. This kit is designed for 300+whp and still maintains perfect driveability and AC!
Includes:
-Full-Race T3 ProStreet Manifold
-Full-Race 3" 4-bolt Downpipe
-Full-Race Intercooler 22"x8"x3"
-Full-Race GT28RS Ball Bearing Turbo with T3 housing
-Tial 44mm Wastegate
-Tial 50mm Blow Off Valve
-Full-Race Custom 2.5" Aluminum Intercooler Piping
-Full-Race Oil Line Kit
-Full-Race Vacuum Line Kit
-Full-Race Hardware Kit
-Full-Race Gasket Kit
-Full-Race Silicon Coupler Kit
-Full-Race Hose Clamp Kit
what i want to know is whats missing in a totally complete kit in order to have a fully running turbo bone stock jdm itr. currently have a exedy stage 1 clutch which i think wont hold 300-350whp which is what i only want.
Stage 1GT AC Turbo Kit is designed for the street/strip racer who is looking for instant spool. This kit is designed for 300+whp and still maintains perfect driveability and AC!
Includes:
-Full-Race T3 ProStreet Manifold
-Full-Race 3" 4-bolt Downpipe
-Full-Race Intercooler 22"x8"x3"
-Full-Race GT28RS Ball Bearing Turbo with T3 housing
-Tial 44mm Wastegate
-Tial 50mm Blow Off Valve
-Full-Race Custom 2.5" Aluminum Intercooler Piping
-Full-Race Oil Line Kit
-Full-Race Vacuum Line Kit
-Full-Race Hardware Kit
-Full-Race Gasket Kit
-Full-Race Silicon Coupler Kit
-Full-Race Hose Clamp Kit
what is missing? that is up to you!
there are things you could get and things you NEED
for one tuning is the most important thing period almost more important than the turbo. as for the turbo to run correctly and safe tuning is a must. having a itr with high compression you are going to be limited on the ammount of PSI you are going to be able to run without blowing it up, that is hwere tuning comes in.
clutch/pressure plate/flywheel = a must for turbo application (flywheel not so much) but definitly a stage 3 clutch (act 6 puck clutch would work)
you compression might even be too high to get the 300-350 (at least the 350) im pretty sure itr has 11:x:1 compression and that is very high, without a exceptional tune BOOM is where you will go.
there are things you could get and things you NEED
for one tuning is the most important thing period almost more important than the turbo. as for the turbo to run correctly and safe tuning is a must. having a itr with high compression you are going to be limited on the ammount of PSI you are going to be able to run without blowing it up, that is hwere tuning comes in.
clutch/pressure plate/flywheel = a must for turbo application (flywheel not so much) but definitly a stage 3 clutch (act 6 puck clutch would work)
you compression might even be too high to get the 300-350 (at least the 350) im pretty sure itr has 11:x:1 compression and that is very high, without a exceptional tune BOOM is where you will go.
FR kits are supposed to be very complete so I wouldnt worry about missing anything as far as the turbo kit itself is concerned. but you are going to NEED other things for the kit to work properly.
like already mentioned, you will need something to tune with. You have many options as far as this goes. If you have a local area tuner you may want to speak with them to find out what they suggest or prefer tuning with. You can run anything from a tunable chipped stock ECU, to a full standalone system. Both can work perfectly fine with a competent tuner. prices will most likely vary greatly here.
It would also be smart to upgrade a few other parts just to be safe, and take care of a few maintenance items such as timing belts, water pumps, seals, clutch upgrade, head studs, gaskets, map sensor (if boosting more than 10psi or so), radiator/fan, dump tube piping, vacuum manifold or fittings to add to your stock manifold, fuel system (injectors, rail, gauges, resistor box if needed), boost controllers, wideband O2 sensor/gauge, interior gauges, maybe axles, brake pads, etc etc etc.
Search some of the build posts in here and you will find people list their entire setups and give you an idea of what you can expect. I highly suggest having a very good understanding of a boosted setup (installation, how it works, basic concepts) before you even purchase your first part.
like already mentioned, you will need something to tune with. You have many options as far as this goes. If you have a local area tuner you may want to speak with them to find out what they suggest or prefer tuning with. You can run anything from a tunable chipped stock ECU, to a full standalone system. Both can work perfectly fine with a competent tuner. prices will most likely vary greatly here.
It would also be smart to upgrade a few other parts just to be safe, and take care of a few maintenance items such as timing belts, water pumps, seals, clutch upgrade, head studs, gaskets, map sensor (if boosting more than 10psi or so), radiator/fan, dump tube piping, vacuum manifold or fittings to add to your stock manifold, fuel system (injectors, rail, gauges, resistor box if needed), boost controllers, wideband O2 sensor/gauge, interior gauges, maybe axles, brake pads, etc etc etc.
Search some of the build posts in here and you will find people list their entire setups and give you an idea of what you can expect. I highly suggest having a very good understanding of a boosted setup (installation, how it works, basic concepts) before you even purchase your first part.
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He can still make plenty of power on a stock ITR.... I know people who are running stock ITR motors with a great tune and good kit and they are making over 400whp on pump gas with an additive
To the OP I think really the only other things you need are a good EMS like Hondata, AEM, Neptune or something like that and look around for a good tuner... also will need injectors
look into head studs and replacing head gaskets and water pump and check your oil pump
The kit your looking at is a great kit and I highly recommend Full-Race
He can still make plenty of power on a stock ITR.... I know people who are running stock ITR motors with a great tune and good kit and they are making over 400whp on pump gas with an additive
To the OP I think really the only other things you need are a good EMS like Hondata, AEM, Neptune or something like that and look around for a good tuner... also will need injectors
look into head studs and replacing head gaskets and water pump and check your oil pumpThe kit your looking at is a great kit and I highly recommend Full-Race

I was simply mentioning that for the sheer fact that so many people now days want to be a turbo groupy and jump on the bandwagon and not know anything about turbo
and think they can get away with running FMU. tuning and fuel management is the most overlooked part of a turbo kit period, hell there would probably be people wanting to get gt35r and run a fmu because some think tuning and fuel management is just some joke
full race is top notch however with poor tuning it is just as good as turboxs
other stuff i would get
fuel pump 255LPH
fuel injectors 450cc+
hi flow fuel rail
aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
inline fuel Filter
and good EMS
Modified by b18sihatch at 6:56 AM 10/28/2006
and think they can get away with running FMU. tuning and fuel management is the most overlooked part of a turbo kit period, hell there would probably be people wanting to get gt35r and run a fmu because some think tuning and fuel management is just some joke
full race is top notch however with poor tuning it is just as good as turboxs
other stuff i would get
fuel pump 255LPH
fuel injectors 450cc+
hi flow fuel rail
aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
inline fuel Filter
and good EMS
Modified by b18sihatch at 6:56 AM 10/28/2006
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