EkFG

Aright heres what i have

97 civic ex with d16 vtec (OBD II) and a turbo kit 8 psi. the motor is bone stock i have a FMU with the kit. My question is what tuning equipment do you guys recommend to get so i can take the car to get tuned.

Should i switch over to OBDI? if so what computer should i use? and what should i use to tune the car with?

Thank's

Turbo-charged

OBD1 P28 ECU with hondata S300

EkFG

what would some of you guys use for this kind of setup. Im looking for options.

blackeg

i would at least go obd1, then from there perhaps hondata, neptune or maybe ectune??

hondamn1320

obd1, p28 and crome = budget tune.

iBrandon

^^^^
i agree


Dont waste your money on hondata S300 unless u plan on going bigger in the future. For that setup crome will do just fine, that is assuming u are taking it to a tuner. If you are self tuning...buy the s300, by the time u purchase everything to tune with crome, u could just as easily bought s300..

willyboyK20

Well your first question to ask yourself is are you going to be able tune it yourself or do you need a tuner.

If its the later find what your tuner uses and go with that. Too many times kids are told they can get a this cheap engine management and two weeks later the engine spits it guts out on the highway. All because they don't know what their doing.

mike93eh2

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blinx9900

why not just keep the FMU? what is your hp goal? and before anybody tries to talk trash about fmu setups i had MANY happy customers on FMU's back in the day and there cars are still running, there not the fastest but its a very cost effective option with minimal maintenance if your hp goal is 225ish whp.

EkFG

My goal it to get it tuned @ a shop close to home, Im not [freak]ing with that ****, too complicated and a computer/dyno can show you exactly where your at and where you need to go versus a street tune or DIY.

My power goal is about 220 nothing extreme.

what Im trying to find out is what should i have before i even step foot into a tunning session. So i can get my car tuned properly?

Thanks.

EkFG

blinx9900.......are you saying, set the turbo up with an fmu and your ready to go?? should there be any tunning involved then?

zex_cool

CROME + free log or eCtune. pass on the $400+ tunning systems.

Schister66

As much as some people swear by Hondata, i was actually told by my tuner that he has an easier time tuning Crome and doesn't see any advantage for me to run Hondata over Crome. I had planned to upgrade, but after hearing that, i'll stick with Crome until the day i have money for AEM.

Crome has worked well for me for 2 years and will be going on my new build as well.

Turbogixxer

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Crome has worked well for me for 2 years and will be going on my new build as well. </TD></TR></TABLE>

There is a LOT of advantages that Neptune/Hondata over Crome. Most people that say Crome is the same never tuned on neptune or hondata.

cjordan

iTrader: (1)

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zex_cool

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There is a LOT of advantages that Neptune/Hondata over Crome. Most people that say Crome is the same never tuned on neptune or hondata.</TD></TR></TABLE>that maybe true but we are talking about a guy here thats looking to make ~200whp.
i dont see a reason to go with a system that costs $400+ like i said before.

but if he was really set on it he should go with eCtune instead of either hondata or neptune.


p.s. OP, dont mind the bandwagon on here.

HRTuning

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Don't forget NepTune as a solid option that's not expensive to get tuned with.

And if you're talking about being able to make changes yourself,

eCtune would cost $405 + shipping if you get the regularly suggested setup of the software, Ostrich, and HondaLog.

NepTune RTP is just $399 + shipping (Depending on where you get it you may not even pay shipping) for an all in one package.

BB6loveBOOST

Go to your tuner ask him what obd1 system he tunes best with, then get it tuned with that.

Turbogixxer

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zex_cool &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that maybe true but we are talking about a guy here thats looking to make ~200whp.
i dont see a reason to go with a system that costs $400+ like i said before.

but if he was really set on it he should go with eCtune instead of either hondata or neptune.


p.s. OP, dont mind the bandwagon on here. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Why does the HP matter? it is good for 800whp, you should use it on 200hp, right

Quick question, you tuned Hondata, Ectune, and neptune?

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zex_cool

200whp and 800whp cars using the same ems ? lol
this is 2008 and not 1999, right ?

i really dont get your point, well besides that you sell hondate and neptune. what other once ?

i've tuned both systems that i originally listed.

SOHC_MShue

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I agree

I prefer neptune personally.

Schister66

Not to thread jack, but for discussion's sake.

I have a 3-400whp car and dont plan to mess with settings on my own ever. I only need a 2-step and the tune itself...what is the advantage of a $500 Hondata system vs Crome?? Remember that my tuner said he'd rather tune my car on Crome instead of Hondata (and he used to be a Hondata dealer)

I honestly want to know...and try to be as unbiased as possible

blinx9900

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exactly, its a passive system and it works great.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not to thread jack, but for discussion's sake.

I have a 3-400whp car and dont plan to mess with settings on my own ever. I only need a 2-step and the tune itself...what is the advantage of a $500 Hondata system vs Crome?? Remember that my tuner said he'd rather tune my car on Crome instead of Hondata (and he used to be a Hondata dealer)

I honestly want to know...and try to be as unbiased as possible </TD></TR></TABLE>
im not a tunning expert but i do happen to know a few and they all say CROME is no consistent/stable.

blackeg

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I agree
I prefer neptune personally. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i have used crome, uberdata and neptune rtp. the neptune is by far my favorite to use, from consistancy with my changes, features available and many other aspects

Dartanian

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Schister66 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not to thread jack, but for discussion's sake.

I have a 3-400whp car and dont plan to mess with settings on my own ever. I only need a 2-step and the tune itself...what is the advantage of a $500 Hondata system vs Crome?? Remember that my tuner said he'd rather tune my car on Crome instead of Hondata (and he used to be a Hondata dealer)

I honestly want to know...and try to be as unbiased as possible </TD></TR></TABLE>

After switching to Neptune from Crome, I will never look back. The car runs better, James is incredibly easy to get in touch with to resolve problems, the features have been tested and actually work as they are supposed to. There is a lot more to a product that just features. Customer support, continuous R&D, and reliability are important to me and Crome falls short in those areas.