LuckysD16

Im building a D16Y7 Block/Y8 Head -- using Vitara Pistons but cant figure out which connecting rods to use. everyone is telling me to use Eagle H Beams with the vitaras but Im tring to get input before dropping mad money on parts. what are the best rods to get for the application???

Garage 808 Hatch

get an aftermarket rod, cuz the vitara's are a floating pin, unlike the stocks

quicksilver1689

eagle or some sort of "knock-off" H-beam, stockers are no good past 225-250whp unless you have magic snake oil to coat your rods with like epic tunings monster z6

LuckysD16

So which ones would be best for 8-15psi of boost -- Eagle, Tuner Toys, Probe I Beams??? I also heard that probe I-beams are only supposed to be used for high rpm or nat asp engines???


Modified by LuckysD16 at 7:54 PM 2/17/2008

LuckysD16

I just remembered as I read the article about Epic Tunings Boosted Z6 -- how the f**k did they run 26psi or whatever the high psi # was with a stock z6 engine???

zex_cool

scat or tt rods.

LuckysD16

Can I use Tuner Toys B series rods and vitaras in a d series engine???

zex_cool

while you are it, try and stick some f23 rods in there.

Garage 808 Hatch

you could use LS rods, but the need a wrist pin bushings and im not sure about the rod bearings needed

but really, any aftermarket rod listed in this thread, would work just fine

wilham320

iTrader: (1)

epic tuning's car had 4 bent rods.... stock rods are no good past 300 for sure.

several people have used the I beams, but most run eagle or TT H beams. you can't use b18b/a rods without mods, just get d specific.

fjt

Or just try out my new Forged rods designed specifically to run the vitara piston on the D16 engine and to bring the CR up. The rods has a custom length to bring the piston up to the top of the sleeve.

With Eagles/TT/SCAT CROWER..you name it rods the CR will be VERY low cause the piston stays down almost 2mm below deck height.

These new rods have an I beam design and will handle over 500whp...



But if you decide to go with H beam rods we also have an H beam standard length design. These rods will handle as well more than 600whp and their price is much more attractive than the other brands.

Its a very well constructed rod and Forged 4340 steel, shot peened, balanced..etc... Same as the other brands.



I beam and H beam deigns together mounted on Vitara pistons....


Sorry about the blurines on the pics... My camera is not that great but i will have better pics soon.

SOHC_MShue

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Seriously whats so hard to make a decision about this? Your talking about running 8-15psi of boost which isn't going to put any serious stress on the rods. Just get the standard eagle/tuner toys/scat type rod or something like fjt is offering and call it a day. Why are you going to run B series tuner toys rods when they make them for the D?

Rickcrx

Hey fjt, how much u have the H beam?

fjt

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gettin it

Scat rods bro, i did that setup already in a z6 putting down 283 to the wheels. Scat rods

fanaticalK

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I've put down 281 on mine for a year now.

killamike0001

fjt i want a set of those rods please give me a price.

bzyq2001

yes fjt, give price for i-beam - how long are they?

sohczcturbo

Just FYI, I used probe I-Beam rods with Vitara's and it required some maching to get them to work. I think the probe I-beams were disigned with the idea that you'd be doing a larger than stock bore on the motor because my rod's wouldn't fit thru the cylinders when assembly time came so there was a few thousandth of an inch removed from the outer sides, nothing extreme, just to get them to fit in there. Also the block was notched and the underside of the piston was shaved a hair for clearance. In the end, the machine work took sometime and a lot of patience, but I'm still very happy with the outcome on how it looks. Motors not completely done yet so cant say how they're holding up but my machine guy/owner and founder of McCabe Motorsports says that they should hold just fine considering they are nearly three times thicker than the stock rods were lol. Here's a pic. and there's many more in my build thread if you'd like to see some of the machine work.



Heres the best pics I can find of my probe/vitara setup, lost all my pics when my comp crashed. My build thread should have a few more though if you need to see.

KENetics1

iTrader: (3)

FJT, what compression do you get using those rods w/ vitara pistons in different engines?

d15turbo123

yah i have a d15b 93 civic running a garret T3 setup and im runnin at 8 pounds of boost but i wanna run between 10-15 and i got the vitara pistons but will the h-beam eagle rods fit?

MeanGreenMachine

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any brand h beam rods will fit, youll just have to notch the block to make clearance for the h beam rod...

fjt

The I beam custom lentgh rod will be on special untill May 31st 2008 at a price of
$288.95 + shipping..Reg price of this custom rod is 339.95 + shipping

The H beam rod Standard length is on special as well at 250.75 + shipping. Reg price on this rod will be 295 + shipping

All rods come with ARP 2000 rod bolts.

I am putting an order for a 2nd batch of the D16 I beams as they are sold out..

d15turbo123

aiight man thks , so notching the block so the rods will fit isnt any thing real major rite?

fjt

notching is easy ...