Twin Charger Setup
03-04-2004, 08:13 AM
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Twin Charger Setup
Just finished up a friends project yesterday, just wanted to share it with you guys
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Jackson Racing Supercharger on 6 psi pulley
home-made manifold
2g RX7 turbo mated to a T3 hotside
7lb deltagate
2.5" downpipe
2g eclipse sidemount
450's/afc
Hopefully we will tune this thing sometime this week or so and see how well it works.
He just wanted to do something different knowing it problay wouldn't be efficient.
Just a little experment i guess
anyways check it out....
b20b
Jackson Racing Supercharger on 6 psi pulley
home-made manifold
2g RX7 turbo mated to a T3 hotside
7lb deltagate
2.5" downpipe
2g eclipse sidemount
450's/afc
Hopefully we will tune this thing sometime this week or so and see how well it works.
He just wanted to do something different knowing it problay wouldn't be efficient.
Just a little experment i guess
anyways check it out....
03-04-2004, 08:25 AM
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excuse me for chuckling...but...all that, and you're running 450cc inj. with the AFC hack ??? Sorry, but that is ludicrous.
none-the-less, it looks cool
none-the-less, it looks cool
03-04-2004, 08:26 AM
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (ScreaminTeg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScreaminTeg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">excuse me for chuckling...but...all that, and you're running 450cc inj. with the AFC hack ??? Sorry, but that is ludicrous.
none-the-less, it looks cool</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol i hear that.
what a waste of cash.
I got $50 on 250 whp max.
none-the-less, it looks cool</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol i hear that.
what a waste of cash.
I got $50 on 250 whp max.
03-04-2004, 08:28 AM
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (ScreaminTeg)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ScreaminTeg »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">excuse me for chuckling...but...all that, and you're running 450cc inj. with the AFC hack ??? Sorry, but that is ludicrous.
none-the-less, it looks cool</TD></TR></TABLE>
what wrong with that...
its better than the FMU you see sitting in those pics...
this thing isnt going to make much power....
He made 160 to the ground on 6 psi from the supercharger
none-the-less, it looks cool</TD></TR></TABLE>
what wrong with that...
its better than the FMU you see sitting in those pics...
this thing isnt going to make much power....
He made 160 to the ground on 6 psi from the supercharger
03-04-2004, 08:36 AM
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (tHIS oNE)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tHIS oNE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
what wrong with that...
its better than the FMU you see sitting in those pics...
this thing isnt going to make much power....
He made 160 to the ground on 6 psi from the supercharger</TD></TR></TABLE>
It may be just a shot in the dark, but I would think that with that much air getting shoved around, you would probably need more fuel.
Rob
what wrong with that...
its better than the FMU you see sitting in those pics...
this thing isnt going to make much power....
He made 160 to the ground on 6 psi from the supercharger</TD></TR></TABLE>
It may be just a shot in the dark, but I would think that with that much air getting shoved around, you would probably need more fuel.
Rob
03-04-2004, 08:39 AM
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (tHIS oNE)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tHIS oNE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just finished up a friends project yesterday, just wanted to share it with you guys
b20b
Jackson Racing Supercharger on 6 psi pulley
home-made manifold
2g RX7 turbo mated to a T3 hotside
7lb deltagate
2.5" downpipe
2g eclipse sidemount
450's/afc
Hopefully we will tune this thing sometime this week or so and see how well it works.
He just wanted to do something different knowing it problay wouldn't be efficient.
Just a little experment i guess
anyways check it out....
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this is awsome, me and a buddy were talking about one day doing a project like this or just toying with the idea, great to see someone actually do it and post pics
b20b
Jackson Racing Supercharger on 6 psi pulley
home-made manifold
2g RX7 turbo mated to a T3 hotside
7lb deltagate
2.5" downpipe
2g eclipse sidemount
450's/afc
Hopefully we will tune this thing sometime this week or so and see how well it works.
He just wanted to do something different knowing it problay wouldn't be efficient.
Just a little experment i guess
anyways check it out....
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this is awsome, me and a buddy were talking about one day doing a project like this or just toying with the idea, great to see someone actually do it and post pics
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03-04-2004, 08:41 AM
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (rjardy)
I remmeber hearing a while back about running a set-up like this would cancel each other out. And that you wouldnt make as much power as if you had just one charger. It will be interesting to see how much power you make.
03-04-2004, 08:46 AM
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (Revi-Ra)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Revi-Ra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I remmeber hearing a while back about running a set-up like this would cancel each other out. And that you wouldnt make as much power as if you had just one charger. It will be interesting to see how much power you make.
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i dunno about that...
Mequier's car made crazy power on a similiar setup.
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i dunno about that...
Mequier's car made crazy power on a similiar setup.
03-04-2004, 08:48 AM
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (rjardy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rjardy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
It may be just a shot in the dark, but I would think that with that much air getting shoved around, you would probably need more fuel.
Rob</TD></TR></TABLE>
I honestly dont seeing it needing that much fuel.
Someone said 250 above and i think thats about what it will make..
Low boost, i think we are going to put a smaller spring in the WGand run like 5lbs from it.
If it ends up needing moe fuel, its not a problem. The 450's/afc just a start to get it going and see how it works
It may be just a shot in the dark, but I would think that with that much air getting shoved around, you would probably need more fuel.
Rob</TD></TR></TABLE>
I honestly dont seeing it needing that much fuel.
Someone said 250 above and i think thats about what it will make..
Low boost, i think we are going to put a smaller spring in the WGand run like 5lbs from it.
If it ends up needing moe fuel, its not a problem. The 450's/afc just a start to get it going and see how it works
03-04-2004, 08:53 AM
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (tHIS oNE)
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i dunno about that...
Mequier's car made crazy power on a similiar setup.
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meguiars also had crazy money to spend on it...
and in my eyes they didnt make as much power as you would have thought
get stand alone.....
hks tuned the meguiars car and they said it was a pain to do cause when the turbo spooled....and then vtec kick over all the fuel/ign maps were all crazy..
i dunno about that...
Mequier's car made crazy power on a similiar setup.
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meguiars also had crazy money to spend on it...
and in my eyes they didnt make as much power as you would have thought
get stand alone.....
hks tuned the meguiars car and they said it was a pain to do cause when the turbo spooled....and then vtec kick over all the fuel/ign maps were all crazy..
03-04-2004, 08:57 AM
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (tHIS oNE)
The Meguiar one did pretty good with a similar setup.
But I have to agree with everyone else about the fuel thing.
An LS with 6psi and only got 160HP that is horrible man. Was the motor fucked up??
If that was an SOHC then its good but an LS with a stock HP of 140HP......
Oh yeah it's still an awesome mani.
But I have to agree with everyone else about the fuel thing.
An LS with 6psi and only got 160HP that is horrible man. Was the motor fucked up??
If that was an SOHC then its good but an LS with a stock HP of 140HP......
Oh yeah it's still an awesome mani.
03-04-2004, 08:58 AM
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (tHIS oNE)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tHIS oNE »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I honestly dont seeing it needing that much fuel.
Someone said 250 above and i think thats about what it will make..
Low boost, i think we are going to put a smaller spring in the WGand run like 5lbs from it.
If it ends up needing moe fuel, its not a problem. The 450's/afc just a start to get it going and see how it works</TD></TR></TABLE>
wait but theres no wastegate flange on that manifold....ok weird when its on the car it has a deltagate.....odd
so your gona boost 5 pounds on the turbo and 6 pounds on the blower.....
5+6 = 11psi
and you better get an intercooler...cause that wood chipper on the intake manifold is going to heat the air up...so the lower the temp you can get before it the better
edit : ohhh wait, there is an intercooler....a dsm sidemount....i think you need a bigger one
I honestly dont seeing it needing that much fuel.
Someone said 250 above and i think thats about what it will make..
Low boost, i think we are going to put a smaller spring in the WGand run like 5lbs from it.
If it ends up needing moe fuel, its not a problem. The 450's/afc just a start to get it going and see how it works</TD></TR></TABLE>
wait but theres no wastegate flange on that manifold....ok weird when its on the car it has a deltagate.....odd
so your gona boost 5 pounds on the turbo and 6 pounds on the blower.....
5+6 = 11psi
and you better get an intercooler...cause that wood chipper on the intake manifold is going to heat the air up...so the lower the temp you can get before it the better
edit : ohhh wait, there is an intercooler....a dsm sidemount....i think you need a bigger one
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (pornstarSR)
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wait but theres no wastegate flange on that manifold....ok weird when its on the car it has a deltagate.....odd
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that pic was taken b4 the manifold was done, look at the manifold on the car
wait but theres no wastegate flange on that manifold....ok weird when its on the car it has a deltagate.....odd
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that pic was taken b4 the manifold was done, look at the manifold on the car
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (pornstarSR)
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ok weird when its on the car it has a deltagate.....odd
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no comments about the rest of my post...ok
ok weird when its on the car it has a deltagate.....odd
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no comments about the rest of my post...ok
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (pornstarSR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pornstarSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so your gona boost 5 pounds on the turbo and 6 pounds on the blower.....
5+6 = 11psi
and you better get an intercooler...cause that wood chipper on the intake manifold is going to heat the air up...so the lower the temp you can get before it the better
edit : ohhh wait, there is an intercooler....a dsm sidemount....i think you need a bigger one</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes that equals 11 psi.
THe front mount for the car is in my bay awaiting the arrival of our new bandsaw so i can cut it down..
And for the few who say waste.....
The supercharger has been on the car for a while, i had nothing to do with that and was asked to build the turbo setup.
The SC was bought for 1k long time ago
the turbo was free, the AFC was arleady in the car as well as the 450's
this was done for practically nothing....
so it was a waste of time if anything, but its a project car so whatever
so your gona boost 5 pounds on the turbo and 6 pounds on the blower.....
5+6 = 11psi
and you better get an intercooler...cause that wood chipper on the intake manifold is going to heat the air up...so the lower the temp you can get before it the better
edit : ohhh wait, there is an intercooler....a dsm sidemount....i think you need a bigger one</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes that equals 11 psi.
THe front mount for the car is in my bay awaiting the arrival of our new bandsaw so i can cut it down..
And for the few who say waste.....
The supercharger has been on the car for a while, i had nothing to do with that and was asked to build the turbo setup.
The SC was bought for 1k long time ago
the turbo was free, the AFC was arleady in the car as well as the 450's
this was done for practically nothing....
so it was a waste of time if anything, but its a project car so whatever
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (tHIS oNE)
wow dont get mad....everything will be ok...
remember if everyone agreed then nothing would be original...
do it if you can thats my moto....if you want to do it do it....but dont expect everyone else to understand it...
good luck...take it slow...do it right....you'll be fine
think about getting hondata atleast if you want to get the most out of it
remember if everyone agreed then nothing would be original...
do it if you can thats my moto....if you want to do it do it....but dont expect everyone else to understand it...
good luck...take it slow...do it right....you'll be fine
think about getting hondata atleast if you want to get the most out of it
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (pornstarSR)
crazy project.... 
is he going to do anything interaly to the motor.. i would just boost it witha turbo and make way more whp... but thats just my 2cents.. good luck on the project.. post your dyno # when you go.
is he going to do anything interaly to the motor.. i would just boost it witha turbo and make way more whp... but thats just my 2cents.. good luck on the project.. post your dyno # when you go.
03-04-2004, 09:30 AM
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Re: Twin Charger Setup (pornstarSR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pornstarSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
5+6 = 11psi
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How does this work with the supercharger and turbo ? Do you add the pressure because they are different types of blower setups ?
Cuz, if you have a twin turbo [enter vehicle name here] and each turbo it gated at 7 psi. 7+7 does not = 14. It will still only push 7 psi of air. But with 2 there is more CFM being pushed.
Just a question.
5+6 = 11psi
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How does this work with the supercharger and turbo ? Do you add the pressure because they are different types of blower setups ?
Cuz, if you have a twin turbo [enter vehicle name here] and each turbo it gated at 7 psi. 7+7 does not = 14. It will still only push 7 psi of air. But with 2 there is more CFM being pushed.
Just a question.
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I really hope that some kind of engine mgmt is going to be used other than the v-afc, then again i dont think that the car will be running that long.
Meguiar's did something similar on the ITR, but it was completley built and a LOT of hours on the dyno.
How are you thinking that the motor will take the heat produced by the supercharger and the turbo, the 2g intercooler will be taxed trying to cool hot air and hotter air.
Please tell me this guy is going to drive with a 3500 redline or something to make the last last.
Meguiar's did something similar on the ITR, but it was completley built and a LOT of hours on the dyno.
How are you thinking that the motor will take the heat produced by the supercharger and the turbo, the 2g intercooler will be taxed trying to cool hot air and hotter air.
Please tell me this guy is going to drive with a 3500 redline or something to make the last last.