EM2Civic

This is a bit off topic since it's not honda related but why would you cast the turbo exhaust housings into the turbo manifold? After seeing a buddy modify his SL65 and pull out the stock turbos I noticed the turbo's are built into the manifold. I'm guessing since it has a 6.5V12 TT under the hood this was only done to save space constraints? Just curious if there is any benefit to it besides that?

drintegra

Perhaps casting affords the manufacturer the ability to mold the manifold and turbo to their specifications making it more cost effective and simpler to *** produce.

EM2Civic

I figured that too, just thought cost effective wouldn't be considered in a car that msrp at 300k new lol and they only make like 200-250 a year.

shifty35

As stated, probably for packaging / space and cost efficiency. Although, the manifolds themselves look to be multi-piece with clamps holding it together. Very strange.

B18C1CYA

The SRT4 Neon and Chevy Cobalt SS along with the SS HHR I beleive are the same way also.

rmcdaniels

*** produce?

Eaglekper0046

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SRT4 I know for sure is. It maybe to limit big mods which doesnt happen.

JDM1civic

That is a weird design. Not hating in any way, but what would intrigue someone to mod a S65? If anyone of you has every driven one, the car is plenty fast, has load and loads of torque. That car weights as much as most trucks and gets to 175mph like its easy....

NonovUrbizniz

VW GTI FSI exhaust manifolds are like that as well.

vtechjunkie

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LOL! I was thinking the same thing.

EM2Civic

Texas mile all day baby He's shooting for fastest SL65 depends on how much the tranny will hold, it's getting custom gearset made currently. Yes it's stupid fast, with just a chip 715/960tq the car would be real close with busas. Why would anyone TT a gallardo, F-GT, etc all the same reasoning.

Mass produce as said they only make 250 a year and 75% are made to order does that even qualify for mass produced?

90Rexx

yes FSI engines are like this (2.0T) from 05.5+

reasoning is its more cost effective

one less gasket to fail, less hardware

from a manufacturing standpoint, this design may save 50-100 dollars on the cost of vehicle to the manufacturer. multiply that by 30,000 units produced ( just a guess) and thats around 1.5-3 million dollars saved!

EM2Civic

They make 250 of them a year so they're not going to get anywhere near 30k units and these manifolds are 65 specific and not used on any of their other engines. Any place to cut cost they will is what I figured too but I didn't really think that came into play with a 300k vehicle

dantamparacer

So the manufacturing company can have the car owner by the *****! When its time to replace either part you must replace both. Crack a manifold replace manifold and turbo. Turbo goes out buy a new turbo and manifold. They make more money that way

ScorpionT

As soon as I saw the title, the CL/SL65 was my first thought. It does make them a bit of a pain to modify the way they are designed, but as stated, its for packaging and simplicity reasons. The SL65 is VERY tight under the hood and a pain to reach anything.

miguel329

lol im with you on this one...

nsxmatt

It's not a 300k car, car costs $190 brand new. The motor is shared with the other TTV12's. Manifold is the same other than a larger compressor so it would make sense to mass produce the exhaust side into the manifold as it's shared.

kyden

those are flex sections.

EM2Civic

190k is base price without taxes in your region and that's also an SL65 reg model, CL65/SL65 50th anniversary msrp is 298,000USD check it out and Msrp in canada is alot more than you guys we have them starting at 285k+tx (which is 15%) almost any option for the car is 10k+ from marble finish kit/alcantara headliner or cashmere headliner designo package etc everything is personalized so once your options are added the price tag goes way up. By not running run flats they saved 5,800 off list lol, what you expect its MB markup land if you actually get approved for credit they'll rape you. Thus why mercedes financial is rated F on the BBB.

91jdmhatchback

Who buys a MB on credit? fake ballers?

Chef Andre

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The base price on the 2011 SL65 is $198,750. Gas guzzler tax and the destination fee will put you right about $202,500. That's not including any other options like the distronic and the AMG performance package.

A 2009's(there was no 2010) base price would be $190,700. $194,175 with the destination and gas guzzler tax.

There's another SL65 which is labeled the "black series" that starts at $300k. It's a limited edition track inspired version. Wide body flares all around, 15inch disk brakes in the front with 8 piston calipers(ithink), Carbon fiber bucket seats standard, top speed of 201mph. There's ALOT more but you get the idea.

tony1

The GTR has the same type of manifold/turbine housing setup. It's actually a good idea from every standpoint except modifications. Smoother flow, no bolts to come loose, no gaskets to leak, etc.

miguel329

yea seems like a good idea until something breaks, then u need a whole new unit... other then that seems like a decent idea

kyden

yeah but none of these turbos are rebuildable through the dealer, so it makes a lot of sense from a manufacturers pov.