Turbo'd Jeep...
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Turbo'd Jeep...
I'm looking to get some more power out of my Jeep. Both for use on the trail and for passing. For a 4.0L I6 the thing is slow, decent torque though.
Who can help me in choosing a turbo that a good size for the thing? I want boost to come on earily, pull till 6000rpm and only running 8psi. New turbo as I don't feel like hunting for a junkyard one.
Stock injectors are 19lbs, so should I step up to 21lbs or 23lbs injectors?
Also what could I use to tune this thing?
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Who can help me in choosing a turbo that a good size for the thing? I want boost to come on earily, pull till 6000rpm and only running 8psi. New turbo as I don't feel like hunting for a junkyard one.
Stock injectors are 19lbs, so should I step up to 21lbs or 23lbs injectors?
Also what could I use to tune this thing?
Thanks
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Re: Turbo'd Jeep... (The G2 Racer)
For tuning Megasquirt all the way. As for turbo sizing, sit down and do some math on the airflow requirements of the motor then select a compressor based on that.
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Re: Turbo'd Jeep... (The G2 Racer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by The G2 Racer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm looking to get some more power out of my Jeep. Both for use on the trail and for passing. For a 4.0L I6 the thing is slow, decent torque though.
Who can help me in choosing a turbo that a good size for the thing? I want boost to come on earily, pull till 6000rpm and only running 8psi. New turbo as I don't feel like hunting for a junkyard one.
Stock injectors are 19lbs, so should I step up to 21lbs or 23lbs injectors?
Also what could I use to tune this thing?
Thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>
Get a supercharger, you can run an 8lb pulley and have power from it the second you touch the throttle. Thats what is going on my jeep. Upgrading the injectors is a good idea.
My Jeep phone camera pics i know
Lets see your's..sorry, didn't know there were any Jeep boys on this site
Who can help me in choosing a turbo that a good size for the thing? I want boost to come on earily, pull till 6000rpm and only running 8psi. New turbo as I don't feel like hunting for a junkyard one.
Stock injectors are 19lbs, so should I step up to 21lbs or 23lbs injectors?
Also what could I use to tune this thing?
Thanks </TD></TR></TABLE>
Get a supercharger, you can run an 8lb pulley and have power from it the second you touch the throttle. Thats what is going on my jeep. Upgrading the injectors is a good idea.
My Jeep phone camera pics i know
Lets see your's..sorry, didn't know there were any Jeep boys on this site
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i have a friend with a turbo'd jeep cherokee, i will get some info on it for you, i know he had a custom tubular header and runs an sc61 on his, and the jeep is frikkin fast as hell, serious torque from the I-6
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Re: Turbo'd Jeep... (tuoniz)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tuoniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not a good idea it will blow up turbokits.com</TD></TR></TABLE>
huh????? why would it blow up?
huh????? why would it blow up?
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Re: Turbo'd Jeep... (tWixT)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nfn15037 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For tuning Megasquirt all the way. As for turbo sizing, sit down and do some math on the airflow requirements of the motor then select a compressor based on that.</TD></TR></TABLE>
The airflow of the engine is about 372 with a volumetric efficiency of 85%.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tuoniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not a good idea it will blow up turbokits.com</TD></TR></TABLE>
505 performance has had nothing but good luck when turboing the I6. With only 6psi of boost unintercooled they're getting 214hp and 281ft-lbs. They use a Garret T60.
I'm going to use an aftermarket header and have a cross over pipe made to mount the turbo on the other side of the engine.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tWixT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get a supercharger, you can run an 8lb pulley and have power from it the second you touch the throttle. Thats what is going on my jeep. Upgrading the injectors is a good idea.
Lets see your's..sorry, didn't know there were any Jeep boys on this site </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'd do a supercharger but I want something different.
Anyhow, here's my Heep.
The airflow of the engine is about 372 with a volumetric efficiency of 85%.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tuoniz »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not a good idea it will blow up turbokits.com</TD></TR></TABLE>
505 performance has had nothing but good luck when turboing the I6. With only 6psi of boost unintercooled they're getting 214hp and 281ft-lbs. They use a Garret T60.
I'm going to use an aftermarket header and have a cross over pipe made to mount the turbo on the other side of the engine.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tWixT »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Get a supercharger, you can run an 8lb pulley and have power from it the second you touch the throttle. Thats what is going on my jeep. Upgrading the injectors is a good idea.
Lets see your's..sorry, didn't know there were any Jeep boys on this site </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'd do a supercharger but I want something different.
Anyhow, here's my Heep.
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This guys are Local they have some Turbocharged Jeep Wranglers, They are pretty fast they have pionnered inline 6 forced induction performance.
They have some videos on their web site check them out. They also beat V8's all the time.
http://www.104racingteam.com
They have some videos on their web site check them out. They also beat V8's all the time.
http://www.104racingteam.com
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18b1ls1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Kinda off topic, but my SS got walked on the highway by a Grand Cherokee sporting a 408 on the bottle! It's a total sleeper, looks stock, but rolls out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your from florida eh?
Theres a NASTY sounding Jeep down here, hes a few videos of it, right click save as please...
All i know is its a fully built motor (idk what kind) on nitrous, its black with black rims.
http://www.daemonsync.org/stre...p.wmv
RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS
http://www.daemonsync.org/stre...p.wmv
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Watch the Corolla get sideways.
p.s. Heres a vid of the supercharged camaro in the 1st race vs a bolt-on 04 cobra to show u how fast it really is.
http://www.daemonsync.org/stre...p.wmv
RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS
Your from florida eh?
Theres a NASTY sounding Jeep down here, hes a few videos of it, right click save as please...
All i know is its a fully built motor (idk what kind) on nitrous, its black with black rims.
http://www.daemonsync.org/stre...p.wmv
RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS
http://www.daemonsync.org/stre...p.wmv
RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS
Watch the Corolla get sideways.
p.s. Heres a vid of the supercharged camaro in the 1st race vs a bolt-on 04 cobra to show u how fast it really is.
http://www.daemonsync.org/stre...p.wmv
RIGHT CLICK SAVE AS
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SHystrdyGSRtdy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">lol... i don't think there's anything that beats the silverado though </TD></TR></TABLE>
This one?
This one?
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Re: (b18b1ls1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18b1ls1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Kinda off topic, but my SS got walked on the highway by a Grand Cherokee sporting a 408 on the bottle! It's a total sleeper, looks stock, but rolls out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
so it was a sub 10 second jeep? awsomeE
so it was a sub 10 second jeep? awsomeE
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On Jeep...I would believe that a supercharger will be more responsive then a turbo.
I mean if your going up a steep hill...you don't want to wait for the turbo to spool...you just want to hit the gas and let it go smoothly with the torque that the supercharger produces.
Torque is what a Jeep needs....not Power IMO, and supercharger is #1 for the Job.
I mean if your going up a steep hill...you don't want to wait for the turbo to spool...you just want to hit the gas and let it go smoothly with the torque that the supercharger produces.
Torque is what a Jeep needs....not Power IMO, and supercharger is #1 for the Job.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX T-Si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On Jeep...I would believe that a supercharger will be more responsive then a turbo.
I mean if your going up a steep hill...you don't want to wait for the turbo to spool...you just want to hit the gas and let it go smoothly with the torque that the supercharger produces.
Torque is what a Jeep needs....not Power IMO, and supercharger is #1 for the Job.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your forgetting that this isnt a 1.6L SOHC honda motor, its a 4.0L and it will spool the turbo alot faster for instant power.
I mean if your going up a steep hill...you don't want to wait for the turbo to spool...you just want to hit the gas and let it go smoothly with the torque that the supercharger produces.
Torque is what a Jeep needs....not Power IMO, and supercharger is #1 for the Job.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your forgetting that this isnt a 1.6L SOHC honda motor, its a 4.0L and it will spool the turbo alot faster for instant power.
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with a properly sized turbo there is virtually no lag.. the HT bandwagon is to put WAY to big of turbos on there engines for daily driving and bitch about lag it seems
btw.. you could run 2 mopar .42/.48's that would be badass
btw.. you could run 2 mopar .42/.48's that would be badass
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zakar »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with a properly sized turbo there is virtually no lag.. the HT bandwagon is to put WAY to big of turbos on there engines for daily driving and bitch about lag it seems</TD></TR></TABLE>
And we have a winner.
Don't forget that a Centrifugal supercharger that they are more than likely talking about for his jeep does not produce nearly the low end torque or boost response that a properly sized turbo does.
I'd run a .81 A/R Master Power 60-1 P-trim. We run a MP 62-1 .81 A/R P-trim on buddies stock block mustang and it's got lots of boost in by 2600 RPM's. For comparison, the Paxton Centrifugal blower he had on there made about 4 psi by 3000 RPM's, and the turbo can make 20+ at that point.
And we have a winner.
Don't forget that a Centrifugal supercharger that they are more than likely talking about for his jeep does not produce nearly the low end torque or boost response that a properly sized turbo does.
I'd run a .81 A/R Master Power 60-1 P-trim. We run a MP 62-1 .81 A/R P-trim on buddies stock block mustang and it's got lots of boost in by 2600 RPM's. For comparison, the Paxton Centrifugal blower he had on there made about 4 psi by 3000 RPM's, and the turbo can make 20+ at that point.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zakar »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">with a properly sized turbo there is virtually no lag.. the HT bandwagon is to put WAY to big of turbos on there engines for daily driving and bitch about lag it seems
btw.. you could run 2 mopar .42/.48's that would be badass</TD></TR></TABLE>
you have been mislead my child...lag is called traction control.
btw.. you could run 2 mopar .42/.48's that would be badass</TD></TR></TABLE>
you have been mislead my child...lag is called traction control.