BlackNoise

Is it okay to run the GReddy turbo kit on my car without an intercooler for a little while? I have enough for the kit and the instal can be done, but being in college I won't have enough for the intercooler until a little later on. I have heard it isn't to bad for it but it won't generate as much power. I understand this and am willing to take that as it comes but this money is burning a whole in my pocket and if I don't hurry up and spend it it might go to some huge racing strips! Someone tell me before I do the ungodly! I won't be running that much boost nor will I be driving the car to often. Thanks for your help.

DragII

it will generate more heat, and be much less efficient than w/ IC...but it can be done.

immortal

just keep boost at the 5.5 pounds, and dont run on it too hard.

BlackNoise

for how long and are we talking a ton less power? and how bad is it going to beat up my engine?

TurboMiata

Dont "stay on it" for extended periods of time either. Heat is your enemy...... Try to at least put your intake filter somewhere COLD

RAWB

At >6psi, you should be fine. The Greddy kit doesn't even come STANDARD with an intercooler. At those boost levels, you won't lose alot of horsepower, the concern should be higher risk of detonation. Again, you should be good

2000_Civic_Si

You have a higher chance of detonation. Get a Mitsubishi Eclipse intercooler of the internet for like $50 and run that for temporary.

DragII

as long as you don't push your car hard, for an extended period of time....and like immortal said stay in the low boost range, your car will be fine. yes, it will make your already unimpressive Greddy kit hp#s even worse.

immortal

i wouldnt call the greddy kit unimpressive. the powerban is much different than the drag. you get a lot more torque with the greddy.......not as much top end

BlackNoise

So are you saying I shouldn't go GReddy in the first place? I don't have much money and the mass production of the GReddy kit makes my year at about the 1500 range and that's why I have been looking so heavly into it. I know its not that much power but will I not even get respect from the people who are killing me now?

DragII

hehe....We will not be debating that one again.....

BlackNoise

Okay then I will ask it in this form....how much HP should I truely expect to come out of my car with the GReddy kit?

RAWB

What car/engine are you runnin?

BlackNoise

um....well...um...the SOHC D16Z from a 97 civic EX (dont laugh please)...

RAWB

You need Papa Wheelie

BlackNoise

haha yes but last i heard everything left max's car...so ha!

immortal

you're better off buying a B16A or a B18B/C swap instead of going with a turbo.....

TurboMiata

boh Greddy!!!

See signature. GReddy is the APC of japan. BOOHHH!!!!

BlackNoise

angry? explain?

1fstevo

Greddy kit without intercooler at 5.5, probably expecting no more then 40HP gain, I would think less than that. Had a greddy with intercooler only gained 50HP. Then he added 370cc injectors, V-AFC, Boost controller, 3mm greddy headgasket, and bumped up to 12psi with his D16Z EX motor 98' ran 14.2, probably bad tires but HP is still limited. The 18G turbo in the GSR kit has much more potenial. Then again, how much HP can EX motor handle stock?


[Modified by [Evo]Hybrid, 2:31 AM 2/28/2002]

BlackNoise

ugh, you all are really bringing down my party..for an understandable reason, but ugh..anyone want to trade a D16Z for a B16 or 18? Its a fair trade I swear.

turbocoupe

For get around the town power the greddy is ok. For racing, unless your gonna do internals and run like 15-20psi, your screwed.

SIK IN DA HED

i wouldnt do it... but if you need to, it should hold... but your engine bay is gonna get pretty hot in there...

1fstevo

swap a motor!!! Guarnteed you will like it better then the greddy EX turbo with no intercooler.

PROFILES2000

hmm greddy makes other good stuff they did what they said they would do. make a reliable street turbosystem for a civic integra and so on. i have 3 greddy 60 mm silver gauges are u gunna tell me that they are APC style now too? i think not