which is better?? Turbo or Supercharge

 

NITROUS is better =P ... be more specific.. for what application.. drag race/road racing/autox/daily driving/ Carshow points

 

turbo has spool up time...supercharge doesnt..turbo runs off exhaust...super charge runs from pulleys...turbo can have turbo damage (back pressure)...supercharge doesnt....turbo needs intercooler because of exhaust heat...super charge doesnt..turbo cost more and if you dont have much knowledge....cost more to fix and tune...super is a slap on and your ready.....turbos got cool BOV..so does supercharge but not so cool haha


i love turbos over it

 

there are 2 types of superchargers.. don't forget.. Centrifugal(Vortech) is simliar to Turbo.. still uses pulleys ..but make more power as engine speed increases.. while a roots-type blower like JRSC..is made for low end power.. and actually heat is a main factor for performance of a roots type blower since to high of a intake temperature can damper performance .... and best performance out of any of these types of Forced induction is made with some of effort to cool intake charge temperatures

 

i use to have nitrous but u have to refill the tank everytime u run out
so im think of getting turb or supercharge.insted of using nitrous

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C_DC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">turbo has spool up time...supercharge doesnt..turbo runs off exhaust...super charge runs from pulleys...turbo can have turbo damage (back pressure)...supercharge doesnt....turbo needs intercooler because of exhaust heat...super charge doesnt..turbo cost more and if you dont have much knowledge....cost more to fix and tune...super is a slap on and your ready.....turbos got cool BOV..so does supercharge but not so cool haha


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Ok NO

Clearly you have no experience with Force Inuction.
Not trying to flame, but let me correct your ignorance.

"turbo has spool up time...supercharge doesnt.." FALSE... Centrifugal supercharger also have to creat boost and are NOT instant. Roots type SC are the only "instant" boost SC.

"turbo can have turbo damage (back pressure)..." Not really. Yes it will definetly affect the spooling time and cause back pressure and create resistance on the turbo but little harm is done.

"turbo needs intercooler because of exhaust heat...super charge doesnt.." TOTALLY WRONG They BOTH need intercoolers. Exhaust heat has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. It is the compression of air molecules that heats up when the air is compressed. That is why intercoolers are recommended on both applications. Notice that even Vortech got smart with their superchargers and added an aftercooler.


"turbo cost more and if you dont have much knowledge....cost more to fix and tune...super is a slap on and your ready....." WRONG again. Both will cost a lot to do the RIGHT WAY. Both have their problems. Slap on and go? Do you know what tip in detonation is with superchargers? They both have prolems and routine maintnance. (tightining belts, hose clamps etc)

Not trying to flame, Just informing people with the CORRECT information.

 

umm...you get a lot of low-end power with a supercharger, while a turbo experiences turbo lag. and turbo is more friendly torwards gas mileage.

 

thanks for adding more to this turbo.. I swear there is so much mis-information being said here...

 

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Well, why don't you just get two of the big ones?

 

Turbo if done right costs a little more but there are a lot more gains then with a SC. Better on gas mileage, easier on the motor....contrary to popular believe a SC actually runs hotter then a turbo. Plus you can drive an entire day and stay in vacuum with out trying (IE driving the car normally).

 

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i think thats the best part about turbo!

 

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I don't think a full turbo kit costs more than a supercharger.... take a look at any SC kit out there(decent ones), they cost well over 3K. The JRSC shouldnt even be considered since it's just a waste of 2500... but you can get a full turbo kit, with everything for under 2500...at least for my SOHC

 

Ok NO

Clearly you have no experience with Force Inuction.
Not trying to flame, but let me correct your ignorance.

"turbo has spool up time...supercharge doesnt.." FALSE... Centrifugal supercharger also have to creat boost and are NOT instant. Roots type SC are the only "instant" boost SC.

"turbo can have turbo damage (back pressure)..." Not really. Yes it will definetly affect the spooling time and cause back pressure and create resistance on the turbo but little harm is done.

Yes, its called compressor surge.
"turbo needs intercooler because of exhaust heat...super charge doesnt.." TOTALLY WRONG They BOTH need intercoolers. Exhaust heat has NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. It is the compression of air molecules that heats up when the air is compressed. That is why intercoolers are recommended on both applications. Notice that even Vortech got smart with their superchargers and added an aftercooler.

A non IC turbo is worthless, lets see how efficent a turbo is at 9psi non IC. i'm talkin about adiabatic efficency not mechanical.


"turbo cost more and if you dont have much knowledge....cost more to fix and tune...super is a slap on and your ready....." WRONG again. Both will cost a lot to do the RIGHT WAY. Both have their problems. Slap on and go? Do you know what tip in detonation is with superchargers? They both have prolems and routine maintnance. (tightining belts, hose clamps etc)

A good/reliable turbo setup will cost more. Supercharger is pretty much slap on and go, change splugs and adjust timing.

Not trying to flame, Just informing people with the CORRECT information.


Modified by MachAF at 11:12 AM 4/23/2003

 

here's all you need to know.


If you want to make power get a turbo,

if not....

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by T-sohctec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here's all you need to know.


If you want to make power get a turbo,

if not....</TD></TR></TABLE>
That took some intelligence

 

if you want to be "different", get a blower. if you want to be fast, get a turbo

 

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Turbo

simple question... simple answer.

 

bang for buck=turbo, supercharger kits cost cheese and are very limited on HP.

 

turbo!

 

the problem with SC is they use power to make power

 

Man...this debate never ends on this board.

1. Both the turbo and the charger have big advantages over stock.

2. Both have maintenance...although my turbo had more than my charger did.

3. Someone said gas mileage was better with a turbo. In my case gas mileage was better with the charger. Far better when driving spiritedly.

4. I love my JRSC on my GSR. The kit did everything it claimed it would do. But after a rebuild I'd rather have had a turbo for the higher boosting potential.

5. I also once had a SOHC turbo and the base turbo kit I had was alot cheaper than the charger. But with the extra's that weren't included (Boost gauge, turbo timer, huge FMIC, blow-off valve, boost controller) wound up costing me much more.

6. I really like the sleeper look the charger gives me. When I was turbo the blow-off valve and the shiny intercooler always had every ricer in their mom and dad's car trying to race me.

But if your goal is to become one of the bigger dawgs in drag racing with that SOHC you'd better go turbo and be prepared to spend much more money than that of a base kit.

There are a million things to debate...and I sure as **** don't won't debate them all. Choose whatever your gonna be more comfortable with and race it to it's fullest.

 

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Turbo

simple question... simple answer.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol. agreed.

 

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6. I really like the sleeper look the charger gives me. When I was turbo the blow-off valve and the shiny intercooler always had every ricer in their mom and dad's car trying to race me.
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i think id take a big intercooler and good HP #'s than 250degree intake temps and high 13 second passes.