Notices

Turbo Theory..............

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-03-2006, 12:16 PM
  #1  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Mugencrxsir1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Naptown, Maryland
Posts: 1,929
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Turbo Theory..............

So from what I understand about chosing intake manifolds for a turbo honda, the Shorter the runners, the more topend you will make. And the longer the runners, the more low-mid power is made? So where to draw the line? I don't plan on rev past 8500rpms, so would it be more advantagous to use a intake manifold with longer runners(AEBS), since shorter runners perform best at 7k-10k. Just looking for opinions, it seems like the Edelbrock victor x would not be useful with a redline of 8500rpm. Anyone have a link to shows the comparison of the power gains of Long runners vs. short runners, and what rpms are effective for each. Thanks, I've search, but they don't answer my exact question.
Old 05-03-2006, 12:25 PM
  #2  
Honda-Tech Member
 
Boostage's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: South Florida
Posts: 3,711
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (Mugencrxsir1)

I would think turbo size is far more important, in your case a Stock ITR/skunk2/aebs intake with the proper sized turbo would work well for you, the Edlebrock MIGHT make a bit less power in the midrange, then really wake up between 7 and10k
Old 05-03-2006, 12:41 PM
  #3  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Mugencrxsir1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Naptown, Maryland
Posts: 1,929
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (Boostage)

So the AEBS/itr would be more advantageous for a redline of 8500rpm, how many people are running the Victor X and have a redline lower than 9K?
Old 05-03-2006, 01:29 PM
  #4  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Mugencrxsir1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Naptown, Maryland
Posts: 1,929
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (Mugencrxsir1)

39 views....................
Old 05-03-2006, 02:00 PM
  #5  
Honda-Tech Member
 
GS-R Civic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NY, USA
Posts: 1,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (Mugencrxsir1)

I have been trying to decide wether to buy a blox or victor x for the last three months, but the same question has been delaying me...
Old 05-03-2006, 02:59 PM
  #6  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Mugencrxsir1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Naptown, Maryland
Posts: 1,929
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (GS-R Civic)

bump
Old 05-03-2006, 04:01 PM
  #7  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Mugencrxsir1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Naptown, Maryland
Posts: 1,929
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (Mugencrxsir1)

bump.......... no one want's to comment, I guess we will have to wait for the night crew for some input on this subject.
Old 05-03-2006, 04:02 PM
  #8  
95GSRTT
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (Mugencrxsir1)

I would go with the victor x, I honestly didnt notice too much of a difference in my mid range and the top end felt a lot stronger when i switched from a blox to the victor x.
Old 05-03-2006, 04:05 PM
  #9  
Honda-Tech Member
 
GS-R Civic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NY, USA
Posts: 1,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (Mugencrxsir1)

Well the victor x will make more power up top fomr 7-10k, but on a low hp application the gains are minimal and there will also be a slight loss in the midrange.

With the Blox/Skunk2/TypeR style there will be an increase in the midrange, but not as much of an increase up top as with the victor x.

If you are planning on staying around 300whp go with the TypeR
If you want to make more power in the future get the victor x.

After months of researching thats the info I have come up with!
Old 05-03-2006, 04:06 PM
  #10  
Honda-Tech Member
 
GS-R Civic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NY, USA
Posts: 1,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (95GSRTT)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95GSRTT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would go with the victor x, I honestly didnt notice too much of a difference in my mid range and the top end felt a lot stronger when i switched from a blox to the victor x.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Awsome, finally someone with expreience!

What engine was this on and what was your power level???
Old 05-03-2006, 04:08 PM
  #11  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Mugencrxsir1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Naptown, Maryland
Posts: 1,929
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (GS-R Civic)

Sweat, I'm sold on victor x, unless someone else can tell me otherwise. I plan on being around 400hp.
Old 05-03-2006, 04:23 PM
  #12  
Honda-Tech Member
 
GS-R Civic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NY, USA
Posts: 1,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (Mugencrxsir1)

I would like to know how much power and what engine 95GSRTT has...
Old 05-03-2006, 04:34 PM
  #13  
95GSRTT
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (GS-R Civic)

its was on an LSVTEC. And I never had a chance to get it tuned on a dyno b/c the car got stolen. I was at least above 275 whp
Old 05-03-2006, 04:36 PM
  #14  
Honda-Tech Member
 
GS-R Civic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NY, USA
Posts: 1,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (95GSRTT)

alright sweet, and you definatly would reccomend the victor x over the blox? you def feel the gains up up and didn't notice a decrease in the mid range??
Old 05-03-2006, 04:41 PM
  #15  
95GSRTT
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (GS-R Civic)

dont get me wrong you will notice a slight decrease in the midrange but the increase on the top end will far out way the decrease. Especeially if you are aiming for a higher whp. And ya I would definitely recommend the victor over the blox anyday.
Old 05-03-2006, 06:36 PM
  #16  
Honda-Tech Member
 
GS-R Civic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NY, USA
Posts: 1,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (95GSRTT)

Alright cool, just one more question, do you think there will be a decrease in the midrange going from a stock gsr manifold to the victor x? thanks!
Old 05-03-2006, 07:11 PM
  #17  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Mugencrxsir1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Naptown, Maryland
Posts: 1,929
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (GS-R Civic)

I believe there would be a slight decrease, but then again the gsr manifold is designed poorly compared to the b16/type-r.


Modified by Mugencrxsir1 at 9:01 PM 5/3/2006
Old 05-03-2006, 07:12 PM
  #18  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Mugencrxsir1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Naptown, Maryland
Posts: 1,929
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (Mugencrxsir1)

either way, slight increase/decrease, not by much.
Old 05-03-2006, 07:50 PM
  #19  
95GSRTT
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: Turbo Theory.............. (GS-R Civic)

yes there will be a decrease because of how the gsr manifold is designed. It is made with the butterflys to give good top end and good midrange tq/hp. But the victor will flow better than the gsr manifold being turbod.
Old 05-03-2006, 08:03 PM
  #20  
 
Zakar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Duluth, Mn, usa
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

if your only looking for 400hp then you should probably spend that money elsewhere.. people are making much more then that on the stock intake
Old 05-03-2006, 08:11 PM
  #21  
Honda-Tech Member
Thread Starter
 
Mugencrxsir1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Naptown, Maryland
Posts: 1,929
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (Zakar)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Zakar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if your only looking for 400hp then you should probably spend that money elsewhere.. people are making much more then that on the stock intake</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good point
Old 05-03-2006, 09:20 PM
  #22  
95GSRTT
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: (Mugencrxsir1)

if you use that reasoning you should also always stick with a 2.5" dp a log manifold, and stock exhaust....you can make that power with a lot of variations. Its just if you get a different intake manifold you can make more power with less.
Old 05-04-2006, 12:33 AM
  #23  
Honda-Tech Member
 
quik sol's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Sandusky, Ohio, USA
Posts: 2,607
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

put it like this, its all about turbo size, all these bandwagon jumpers throw oversized turbos on there car to make 300whp (aka sc61), but don't hit full boost til like 6k rpms....
Old 05-04-2006, 05:15 AM
  #24  
Honda-Tech Member
 
GS-R Civic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: NY, USA
Posts: 1,069
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: (quik sol)

Im interested because I am looking for more usable power, this is my daily driver. Im looking to do a few more bolt on rather than turning the boost up too much because it is a totaly stock block/head. Im trying to figure out if there is a major, or even a noticable difference with the victor x, because although higher rpms is where the honda sreams, I don't get up there that often. Thanks guys!
Old 05-04-2006, 06:11 AM
  #25  
 
Zakar's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Duluth, Mn, usa
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

lol, i saw a guy on here with his setup in his sig.. SC61 @ 6psi.. it was funny..

i agree most people buy oversized turbos.. but most people are also going to be runnign more power eventually so they want overkill..

if you properly size your turbo you can have great midrange power


Quick Reply: Turbo Theory..............



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 04:56 PM.