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Old 12-07-2004, 06:59 AM
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I just dont get why people are doing this. what would the benifits be?
according to the web site, it produces cooler underhood temps.


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talk about turbo lag.........
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Default Re: turbo in the rear.... (junkyard racer)

doesnt that creat some serious turbo lag???
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yea big time lag I would think... not to mention the loss in exhaust velocity by the time it reaches the turbo... and you probably need a pump just to get the oil back to the pan. oh and god forbid you hit a puddle with the air filter right there

I would like to hear what benifits if any, would off set these issues...


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Old 12-07-2004, 07:18 AM
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We just installed a STS on a LS1 TransAm about a month ago. In its defense, I can say that it is one of the most complete kits I have ever seen. However the idea itself is dumb IMO. Yes cooler underhood temp, but you pay heavily on the lag. The TA does not start to even see boost until almost 4K, and that's on a 5.7L V8. By the turbo reaches the preset setting of 6psi, car is already at redline.
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Default Re: turbo in the rear.... (maxspeedhonda)

at least people are thinking outside the box... I guess.
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Default Re: turbo in the rear.... (redturbocivic)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redturbocivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">repost</TD></TR></TABLE>

even the same pic as last month
Old 12-07-2004, 08:20 AM
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Default Re: turbo in the rear.... (Bailhatch)

sorry i didnt see it ::rolls eyes::

i thought the same thing about the lag/oil pump/lag, i just was wondering why in the hell anyone would do this?

why change something that already works?
Old 12-07-2004, 08:22 AM
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Default Re: turbo in the rear.... (junkyard racer)

if you are interested in the anwsers to your questions just find the 2 or 3 old threads about this. We tore it apart and you will find lots of info about it
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Default Re: turbo in the rear.... (Bailhatch)

Not STS again!

Like mentioned above, this has been talked about in a bunch of threads in the last few weeks...

It works well with cars that don't have room in the engine bay... it works well on Hondas but I don't see the point when we obviously have a ton of room to work with compared to other vehicles...

There is a video on the STS web site of this ITR if you want to check it out.

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maybe he says he's all motor when obviously he's not....i was thinking about doing something custom to my bmw...but no one has a good software to run it correctly...
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Default Re: turbo in the rear.... (junkyard racer)

he must love turbo lag....
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Default Re: turbo in the rear.... (junkyard racer)

turbo in the rear has to be the worst idea ever. I think people only do it because they saw some saw else do it. Basicly, the onlything spinning the turbo because it is so far is exaust pressure. Remember how gas also compresses so all the gas between the turbo and header has to compress inorder to get the turbo moving. Also your charge pipe will have to run all the way up to the front so that gas also has to compress before you will experiance any boost. you will probilby have to run a oil pump for the oil return .
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Default Re: turbo in the rear.... (BoostedJeff)

every ******* thing on this forum is a repost.

whats your point.

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Default Re: turbo in the rear.... (junkyard racer)

why???
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Default Re: turbo in the rear.... (TurboB18C1)

i just wanta ask one thing what kinda oil pump is used to pull the oil from the return????
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Default Re: turbo in the rear.... (junkyard racer)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by junkyard racer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why change something that already works? </TD></TR></TABLE>

LS1 Single Turbo Kit: 6000+ dollars
STS LS1 Turbo Kit: 3300 dollars

That's why.
Old 12-07-2004, 01:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DLB1994 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just wanta ask one thing what kinda oil pump is used to pull the oil from the return????</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok, jesus christ, i posted in the old thread. it uses its own oiling system, it is self contained. all of the pipies are jet hot coatedso the temps are maintained, of course there is some heat loss, thats why there is a slight decrease in piping diameter right before the turbo. this system doesnt need an intercooler because the piping on the way to the motor sheds most of the heat. SEARCH
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Default Re: turbo in the rear.... (wantboost)

I think that you could build a turbo kit like that for way less than you could buy it from them. The design is pretty simple.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boosted-delslow &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think that you could build a turbo kit like that for way less than you could buy it from them. The design is pretty simple.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes you probably could...

They have a patent on replacing the muffler with a turbo... at least no other companies can copy them.

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the drawbacks outweigh any benefits.
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Default Re: turbo in the rear.... (junkyard racer)

lol... thats nuts.


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