just want to get some info on a turbo kit for a b16b.

1.will i have to do head work if i go for a bolt on turbo?

2.has any1 had problems with turbo kits?

3.i was going to pay 2500 for the kit is that to expensive.

and what are they like for fitting?

 

if you have a b16b, i wouldn't turbo. to much high compression for a turbo

 

What car do you have? a ctr? or a b16 spec r swapped civic? I want to buy your ctr if you have one. and with your money you can buy a civic with an ls/vtec with 9:1 or something and turbo that.

too high of compression to be reasonable. It's possible. but to the vast majoity a dumb idea for a street car and a horrible thing to do to a wonderful b16b

 

whats good for my car then?i just have a buddy club spec 3 exhaust at the mo. i have about 2 g's to spend.

its a real type r!!!!!!!!

 

that motor is more of a endurance motor, built for high revving N/A. i would play around with other things that are going to show gains. in the lower rpm.

 

stock B16b compression isnt too high, it will be fine, just not as safe at the same boost level as a lower compression motor. the higher compression makes it very very important to spend almost the majority of your budget on tuning, so it might not be the best route for you. and if you really do have the CTR B16b the next step is some sort of FI, as the factory motor is basically what everyone works toward here in the states. bolt ons will give you little power per $$$, but its your money.

 

what about a mugen ecu?is the x-over point 4,700 on it and the rev limit is 9,500
can you run 95 octane on that ecu?

 

post some pics, I want to see yours, not that I dont believe you. I'm calling jpr to get me one. I just want to see yours. i got the authentic ctr fever

 

take that 2500 and go all motor!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EKEJ6 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">take that 2500 and go all motor!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, all motor B16b huh, whats he gonna do to it???

 

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yeah, all motor B16b huh, whats he gonna do to it???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Obviously make more power than stock, you know that's possible even though its awesome all motor from factory. Raising c/r tuned exhaust, itbs if he wants. higher lift longer duration lobes, port/polish work, tranny work, etc...

... stop hating

 

NA would add up to half the HP of a turbo setup

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Josh C. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Obviously make more power than stock, you know that's possible even though its awesome all motor from factory. Raising c/r tuned exhaust, itbs if he wants. higher lift longer duration lobes, port/polish work, tranny work, etc...

... stop hating </TD></TR></TABLE>

i doubt he was hating, it's more cost effective to go Force induction.. especially when working with a B16b.

 

hating, me, never buddy, point is, the b16b is the best of the best when it comes to B's. not much room for improvement w/ valvetrain or head work period. sure you could spend $2000 on headwork, and another $2000 on valvetrain and might get 10whp in the upper range, but you would lose the driveability, need a custom tune, and be in debt. why not spend $1500-$2000 on a tuned boost setup and double the power???

 

you could do this crazy *** thing called search?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jsilva &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After reading some of the other threads you started and your replies i would recomend you to search before you turbo your ctr. O and if you want that super cool backfire noise you posted about before you dont gotta blow 2500 on a turbo kit to do it. Although you could prob put an h22 block on your ctr head and get some backfire. Sorry everyone for bein an *** but im sick of people making posts like this guy does and i couldnt take it anymore.</TD></TR></TABLE>

WOW, calm down noob. this forum is here for people to post there questions/concerns/thought. its called collective knowledge. you have no reason to attack someone for asking a question like how to make more power. sure he could search, but how many threads are there about CTR??? get a life.

 

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yeah, all motor B16b huh, whats he gonna do to it???</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by schardbody &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hating, me, never buddy, point is, the b16b is the best of the best when it comes to B's. not much room for improvement w/ valvetrain or head work period. sure you could spend $2000 on headwork, and another $2000 on valvetrain and might get 10whp in the upper range, but you would lose the driveability, need a custom tune, and be in debt. why not spend $1500-$2000 on a tuned boost setup and double the power???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Umm...How about ITR crank and rods...there ya go. No sarcasm to you, i understand what you're sayin.

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Turbo makes more power than na? No **** Dick Tracy.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jsilva &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">After reading some of the other threads you started and your replies i would recomend you to search before you turbo your ctr. O and if you want that super cool backfire noise you posted about before you dont gotta blow 2500 on a turbo kit to do it. Although you could prob put an h22 block on your ctr head and get some backfire.
Wtf are you talking about? Oh I mean good one.
Sorry everyone for bein an *** but im sick of people making posts like this guy does and i couldnt take it anymore.</TD></TR></TABLE>

And everyone's sick of you bein a jackass already, and you've only been a member for a month.


To the original poster, it's all what you want. If you have your heart set on boosting your ctr, go for it, just make sure you have a source where you can have your car tuned safely. Otherwise, for na, i'd look into swapping in the itr crank and rods. And if anyone feels like i'm hatin, don't take it personal, i'm jfwy.


EDIT: No you shouldn't need any kind of headwork, and we'd need to know what the kit all consisted of to tell you if 2500 is a bad deal or not.



Modified by noboostedEGo at 9:00 PM 6/21/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by noboostedEGo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Umm...How about ITR crank and rods...there ya go.

Turbo makes more power than na? No **** Dick Tracy.

And everyone's sick of you bein a jackass already, and you've only been a member for a month.


To the original poster, it's all what you want. If you have your heart set on boosting your ctr, go for it, just make sure you have a source where you can have your car tuned safely. Otherwise, for na, i'd look into swapping in the itr crank and rods. And if anyone feels like i'm hatin, don't take it personal, i'm jfwy.


EDIT: No you shouldn't need any kind of headwork, and we'd need to know what the kit all consisted of to tell you if 2500 is a bad deal or not.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah, cuz someone w/ a B16b swap wants to do a complete bottom end build for 10whp, come on, theres no logic in trying to get more n/a power out of a b16b, and especially for a DD street car.

 

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yeah, cuz someone w/ a B16b swap wants to do a complete bottom end build for 10whp, come on, theres no logic in trying to get more n/a power out of a b16b, and especially for a DD street car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, why would anybody want a high compression itr motor? How gh3y is that? No power potential there Being a turbo enthusiast (i assume you are) you should know that tq gain is more important than peak hp gain, and don't even try to say that the only difference between a high cr itr motor and a ctr motor is 10 peak hp.

The thing is, I agree with you that boosting it would be cool. 10.8:1 is a bit high yes, but it's definitely doable. Yes I understand it's the fi forum, but when people start saying it's pointless to get na power out of a b16b, it's just ignorance.

 

I say boost that bitch... If u have the money do it.. N/A is good for your car, but how much are u willing to spend? 2k is not even enough to make your all motor car that fast...

I see hella b16 on this forum running stock with a turbo kit hitting 260 and some close to 300.. All u need is just one good as tuner.. P.M Mase He'll tell u what sup.. dont listen to foo's thats not boosted.. N/A = Gay...

Why Spend **** load of money to only get 200 whp for your N/A&lt;&gt;?
When u can spend the same amount and get twice the WHP?

CTR are pretty high.. But u can always boost that bitch to 8-9 psi? daily?

 

i dont think the gains from the itr bottom end are worth the hassle is what i was saying. screwing w/ a honda bottom end, putting a heavier rotating assembly in, and changing the whole engine dynamics for a few HP. its not going to be much more than a few, hell if you want i can tell you exactly what peak HP will be w/ a flat tq line. its just not worth it, trust me. 10.8:1 isnt a bit high for boost either, maybe for someone looking to boost over 12psi daily, but stock compression and low boost is easier to take DD, then high boost and low compression.

 

<U> dont think the gains from the itr bottom end are worth the hassle is what i was saying. screwing w/ a honda bottom end, putting a heavier rotating assembly in, and changing the whole engine dynamics for a few HP. its not going to be much more than a few, hell if you want i can tell you exactly what peak HP will be w/ a flat tq line. its just not worth it, trust me. 10.8:1 isnt a bit high for boost either, maybe for someone looking to boost over 12psi daily, but stock compression and low boost is easier to take DD, then high boost and low compression </U>


Agree

 

who cares if its a driveway dream, maybe he just wanted to know so he could dream of the next part. who knows, point is, no need to bash anyone unless its something thats been covered or the post is in the wrong place. noob or not, STFU.