teddy_dc2

i'm still debating on a clutch and flywheel kit: clutchmaster stage 3 or exedy cerametallic thin? cm:110% over stock, exd:72% over stock. aiming for 350whp+ with internals by end of summer. i know it's rated by torque but about how much whp will the exedy hold? personal experience or recommendatin welcomed...

StolenTeg

Go with CM stage 5 , i have the stage 3 and the pedal feel is lighter than stock

livinlow

act xtss

f1 vtec

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RogueWorks

We've seen people running 300+ hp with the stage 2 exedy, but do not get the thin, go with the thick cerametallic for a street car. 350 could be pushing, but it is based on torque ratings like you noted. XTSS will be a workout on your leg for a daily driver, doesn't bother some people, but you'll hate a heavy pedal in stop and go traffic.

teddy_dc2

what would happen if i go with the cm stage 3? it's over kill but will there be major problems besides a hard pedal. this is my weekend car.

StolenTeg

CM 3 pedal is not hard, i have it and it softer than stock. I would have gone with stage 5 if i had known it was this soft

Mugencrxsir1

I have the ACT heavy duty with street disc, but I'm just like you and I'm going to have to upgrade to the Extreme with street disc, or 6puck.

But I'm wondering if anyone knows if there is a huge difference between the engagement of the 6 puck vs the street disc?

teddy_dc2

soft? i hear cm stg. 3 is hard and a work out for the foot as daily driver. i rather pay a bit more for a better capacity clutch for the power to come but will it damage like my tranny or axles?

RogueWorks

Exedy twin metallic

teddy_dc2

what is the difference between the thick and thin plate, i was told to get the thin due to street use, but should it matter? what's the purpose?

Cprace1

check out the competition stage 5 not to pricey and will hold the power I have three turboed hondas running that in the back one at 430hp, 300hp, and 370hp, if you need some prices or info PM me.

TurboGSR96

Do not listen to this guy....the Clutchmasters Stg5 is way too much for your setup and does not last long at all. It is a full drag clutch, mine made it 3k miles and it was dead. I just bought the ACT XTR6 and I heard alot of good stuff about it.

RogueWorks

Honestly I would not recommend XTR6 for daily driver, I had one, great at the track, but it is not made for driving around town in stop and go traffic. Just my first hand experience. It also wiped out my pressure plate and XACT flywheel in less than 4 months. (my fault, because it is not made for stop and go traffic on a daily basis)

Mugencrxsir1

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If you don't recomment the XTR6, then what do you recommend that will hold 350-400hp daily, and still be good for the track, does such a clutch exist? I'm interested to hear some opinions, because it sounds like you can't have your cake and eat it too.

TurboGSR96

Well wtf then.....lol..... I have more clutch issues, My boy had the XTR6 and when he wore it out he would just replace the disc, the pressure plate lasted more than 1.5yrs and he went through 3 disks but all he does is race.

RogueWorks

exedy twin if you're a baller, possibly look into the action clutch lineup, heard good things about them.

teddy_dc2

i was thinkin bout the cm stg 3 but one of my friends ran a similar act stage 3 on a stock ls turbo and f*uped his tranny and twisted an axle. he explaind that the friction point was very thin, like letting go of the clutch then boom it catches. it also wore out really fast cause all the friction was rather wasted than used.

btotherizzle

I use a cm stage 3 running 350whp in a itr. Lighter than stock, good grab easy in traffic, better than my Hyundai!

tub_sephiroth

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I don't know why people keep saying that the XTSS will be a workout. Mine is hardly a workout at all. When I first installed it, yeah.. it was kinda hard. Then after a week or so, either I got used to it or it softened up quite a bit.

Cprace1

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Because most of these guys came from Stage 1s or stock clutches compared to them yeah its a little hard but hey you get use to it

teddy_dc2

how long is the cm stg 3 lasting you? i'm making about 230-240 whp (don't know how much torque) at the moment, would this work for my output?

drumking15

to clarify some of this stg bullcrap...lets get him on teh right track...

stg 3 to most...is a segemented kevlar disk...obviously some manufacturers have different PP...ive used personally action & clutchmasters...the same disk material on both being kevlar...the cm is a soofter pedal feel while the action is very stiff (itll make you calf growth literally!).....both are very streetable and very comfortable to drive w/.......i ran mine n/a for awhile and after a lot of hard pullin when it heats up itll slip a bit...so i upgraded to a unsprung 4-puck....total on/off switch but it grabs hard every time...it can be streetable if you get a sprung disk...but for anything boostied....i would go less than a kevlar disk w/ strong pp....

but like youve mentioned this is a weekend warrior...so maybe a lil on the heavier side w/ a 4 or 6puck sprung disk wouldnt be all that bad either....my 4 puck hasnt sliped...and im at about 350ish...

teddy_dc2

is this a good deal? http://shop.clubcivic.com/clut...5ef13 i'm not familar with findanza's flywheels as far as people using them and performance. the discription is 7lbs and sold for around $180, will work with c.m. fx300. is it any good? (think the f.w. is too light???)

btotherizzle

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Been using it for 4 years summer driving only about 30,000 km of absolute abuse. I circuit race it and just generally give it a beating whenever I drive it and it only slipped once at the drag strip after about 10 runs one after another(very slow night). I slipped the clutch alot to get off the line and did 2nd gear burnouts before each one. I was very impressed.
Turbo itr 350whp 248ftlbs