turbo bracing...
03-31-2004, 10:08 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegracinGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bump.. i'd like to see some to get ideas for mine.. </TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly my intentions for this thread...
exactly my intentions for this thread...
03-31-2004, 03:20 PM
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from the backside it looks like poscile sticks
But from the front you can't see as much, I also built a bracket for my downpipe that holds the downpipe up to the motor aswell to take the stress off the heavy *** turbo I have. So the manifold will not be the only thing supporting the weight of the turbo.
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03-31-2004, 04:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pgpunkguy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">HOLY BRACING BATMAN!!! 
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Them POS's need it...
</TD></TR></TABLE>Them POS's need it...
03-31-2004, 04:14 PM
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Re: (IntegracinGSR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegracinGSR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Someone's got to have some pics of the braces..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Count me in on needing info
Count me in on needing info
03-31-2004, 04:29 PM
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bracing is important, but make sure you have a peice of flex pipe in your downpipe. also having solid motor mounts doesn't help cracking at all either..
03-31-2004, 05:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MIKES »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
from the backside it looks like poscile sticks
But from the front you can't see as much, I also built a bracket for my downpipe that holds the downpipe up to the motor aswell to take the stress off the heavy *** turbo I have. So the manifold will not be the only thing supporting the weight of the turbo. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That looks like those EM Racing Bars.
from the backside it looks like poscile sticks
But from the front you can't see as much, I also built a bracket for my downpipe that holds the downpipe up to the motor aswell to take the stress off the heavy *** turbo I have. So the manifold will not be the only thing supporting the weight of the turbo. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That looks like those EM Racing Bars.
03-31-2004, 06:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xaznxboixsirx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How's that a POS? i don't think it's the ssautochrome manifold....correctl me if i'm wrong, but that's the sparke manifold...</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baby99si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like obx, i also would like to see some more pics on braceing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
His sig says sparks manifold.
His sig says sparks manifold.
03-31-2004, 06:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ITSTOCK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Them POS's need it...</TD></TR></TABLE>
regardless of it being a POS or not...
i think it's a good idea to brace the manifold anyway!
no matter how strong the manifold, with the weight of the turbo and downpipe and wastegate after a lot of driving somethings eventually gonna give from the weight hanging off the manifold...
bracing will just buy you some insurance
my point of this thread was to see how differently people approached the idea of bracing...
b18cls1: do you have any more pics of that bracing that's not so "zoomed-in"?
regardless of it being a POS or not...
i think it's a good idea to brace the manifold anyway!
no matter how strong the manifold, with the weight of the turbo and downpipe and wastegate after a lot of driving somethings eventually gonna give from the weight hanging off the manifold...
bracing will just buy you some insurance
my point of this thread was to see how differently people approached the idea of bracing...
b18cls1: do you have any more pics of that bracing that's not so "zoomed-in"?
03-31-2004, 06:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xaznxboixsirx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How's that a POS? i don't think it's the ssautochrome manifold....correctl me if i'm wrong, but that's the sparke manifold...</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baby99si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like obx, i also would like to see some more pics on braceing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jfoster »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">His sig says sparks manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you know... i WAS gonna mention the same thing, but...
i decided to leave it alone! lol
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by baby99si »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like obx, i also would like to see some more pics on braceing.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jfoster »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">His sig says sparks manifold.</TD></TR></TABLE>
you know... i WAS gonna mention the same thing, but...
i decided to leave it alone! lol
03-31-2004, 07:36 PM
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Make sure you brace the wastgate flange too. Mine broke 3 times on that mani. I also had boost creep, I don't even want to go into all the problems I had when I switch to that thing. Good Luck
04-01-2004, 01:19 PM
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B18C4-T- take a closer look at the pics. The wastegate is well supported and it is not like the old ones where the wastgate neck was like 5" long. I also had the wasgate port on the manifold port matched to the gasket to stop boost creep. Quite a bit of material was taken from there. Yes it is a Sparks Racing mani and despite the issues I have heard about cracking, nobody can say it doesn't work well. I have taken lots of steps in ensuring this thing doesn't crack. I beleive the main part is bracing it to support the weight of a Sc61 and making a bracket for the downpipe to the block to take the extra weight off the manifold. Time will tell, because I have a point to prove with this manifold that it can make decent power along side withthe best of them. Heres a pic with the turbo and wastegate on.
and a couple more pics of the mani by itself
I am not sure what grade of metal the machinist used to brace it with. They have done all my fabricating on my Teg and GN, so I just leave it up to them. BTW the oil dipstick still works with all the bracing done to the back of the manifold.
and a couple more pics of the mani by itself
I am not sure what grade of metal the machinist used to brace it with. They have done all my fabricating on my Teg and GN, so I just leave it up to them. BTW the oil dipstick still works with all the bracing done to the back of the manifold.
04-01-2004, 03:25 PM
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What about bracing the manifold/turbo to the block? I'd like to hear people's thoughts on that.
I'm going to be running a Max Rev stainless manifold, and am wondering about materials to be used in bracing the assembly to the block. I know stainless expands differently than 'regular' steel, so is it necessary to take material expansion into account in designing the brace? (for instance, I wouldn't want the block brace to restrict the normal expansion of the manifold, which seems like it could cause damage).
I'm going to be running a Max Rev stainless manifold, and am wondering about materials to be used in bracing the assembly to the block. I know stainless expands differently than 'regular' steel, so is it necessary to take material expansion into account in designing the brace? (for instance, I wouldn't want the block brace to restrict the normal expansion of the manifold, which seems like it could cause damage).
04-01-2004, 03:27 PM
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jesus! why would you want to brace something that's supposed to do its job when you buy it. doesn't make sense to me. search! and you'll find all the answers you need. For that cash buy yourself an inlinepro or revhard...i'd rather stick a drag mani on my car than that thing 
It's not that i don't believe that it'll do its job as a manifold, but it's just not durable...that's the problem
It's not that i don't believe that it'll do its job as a manifold, but it's just not durable...that's the problem
04-01-2004, 04:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pgpunkguy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
regardless of it being a POS or not...
i think it's a good idea to brace the manifold anyway!
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I have to disagree...
I have actually had some manifolds crack from being braced.
If you tie the manifold down too well, the thermal expansion from the manifold is going to crack it somewhere.
When it heats up and wants to expand and cant it has nowhere to go and cracks
regardless of it being a POS or not...
i think it's a good idea to brace the manifold anyway!
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I have to disagree...
I have actually had some manifolds crack from being braced.
If you tie the manifold down too well, the thermal expansion from the manifold is going to crack it somewhere.
When it heats up and wants to expand and cant it has nowhere to go and cracks
