bosten17

hey guys so i have some questions,
i want to turbo my auto 2000 civic d16y8 and yes i know a auto.
the reason being is because i lost my left leg in a bad accident.(if you have to know)

so i know what i need the as far as a turbo kit

the thing i dont know is what can i use for fuel managment or to tune

ive done some research and found i can use a FMU,AEM standalone system and i think a apexi vafc

im just so confused on this engine managment and tuning stuff for a atuo someone help me

power goals are about 160 whp or so

also if i run a fmu do i need to upgrade the fuel pump and injectors? and what ratio should i get 12:1 8:1 10:1

thanks for your help please dont be negative

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

This is your "engine management". The VAFC is the crude tuning component. You'll need a Missing Link.

bosten17

thank you sir ^ do i need to upgrade injectors or fuel pump

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

No. That what the FMU is for. Mind you this will be a crude method to getting your car boosted due to that automatic transmission. The transmission will be your limiting factor. I don't think you'll even get 160hp reliably.

bosten17

ok so i dont need to upgrade any of that stuff with the fmu correct? what ratio should i get 12:1?

Spawne32

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you need a greddy emanage ultimate, or an emanage blue, that will piggy back your ECU for tuning AFR's and ignition timing, and run an adjustable fuel pressure regulator, a different rising rate from 1:1 would be better but anything above 5:1 i think would be overkill for 160whp and make it harder to dial in.

grumblemarc

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Whatever the method you use to manage the fuel I seriously doubt that transmission will even hold that power.

bosten17

so thats all i would need? no upgraded fuel pumps or injectors? and will i still need a fmu very confused now

Spawne32

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for 160hp, i highly doubt you will need a FMU, everything can be done with the piggyback and fuel pressure adjustments. Ive worked with this setup on an OBD2 automatic integra that was boosted on 9psi, worked out fine.

OneBadTurboCRV

If this confuses you, just keep driving it stock...

bosten17

ok and is the greddy system is that pretty easy to use or do you suggest i take it to a tuner?

grumblemarc

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Go this route. You might be able to tune it yourself.

bosten17

ok thank you ill try it out and do some more research

Spawne32

iTrader: (3)

Ideally you want to have it taken to a tuner, but the emanage should have a self tuning feature at the very least to adjust AFR's, if you are adept enough at using these types of things. Im trying to find a suitable rise rate regulator for your setup. Otherwise you will have to run slightly larger injectors.

Spawne32

iTrader: (3)

Anyone know what the D16y8 stock injector size is? Probably could do this by raising base fuel pressure by 10psi on a aem adjustable 1:1 regulator, and then just have the emanage dial back the part throttle fueling.

mafia

Im sorry for getting off topic, But why not look into b18c (itr swap) with b16/b18 jdm/usdm auto tranny might be decent power and still be auto.

grumblemarc

iTrader: (4)

You're not getting that swap in a 6th gen Civic.

bosten17

On a budget it or I would get a nice swap or even a newer car at that

bosten17

Injector size is 240

94exa2

First, if you are lucky, you can find rebuild kits, high stall converters and even upgraded cv shafts from TCI, using alto red eagle clutch packs. This should allow the a/t to handle a little more tq than stock.

So what is the best way for him to "tune" since he cant chip then tune? The Greddy Emanage? The Edelbrock system? FMU?

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trks...at=0&_from=R40

I have also seen the rebuild kit with Alto Red Eagle clutch packs on jegs website and a few others.

Spawne32

iTrader: (3)

The CV shafts are exactly the same as any manual transmission CV shaft, theres no magic there. Stall converters are easily had by any reputable converter company, i had mine built for racing from precision of new hampton (gopnh.com). Clutches on the other hand are harder to find, alto red eagles are no longer made for honda transmissions, raybestos GPXX line may still be available for the newer models, but ultimately it depends on which transmission you are using.

Civic's unfortunately suffer from a lack of clutch surface area, whereas the OBD1 integra transmission like I am using has a much larger clutch pack assembly. I also had the advantage of gaining access to an MP7A SIR-G automatic transmission from a JDM B18C factory automatic integra. Which was built by honda for the 7600 redline, and gear ratio to match.

Because of OBD2 and the nature in which the transmission is controlled electronically, you have no choice but to run a piggyback system rather then a standalone management system. Converting back to OBD1 or replacing the ECU all together would leave the transmission without any controls to operate shifting, because in the newer models transmission and engine controls are all integrated into one computer. Whereas in OBD1 honda's you will often find a TCU and ECU, much like the OBD1 integra and accord.

A properly built automatic will withstand alot of abuse, but it ultimately depends on how you drive it, if you are N bombing it all the time because you like showing off at traffic lights, then it wont last very long.

94exa2

What would you say is the best piggyback out there since he cant chip his obd2 ecu, and cant swap to obd1? Emanage? Whatever comes with the Edelbrock kit? AEM FIC?

Spawne32

iTrader: (3)

http://www.greddy.com/products/elect...nage-ultimate/

and you will need...

http://www.aemelectronics.com/fuel-d...e-regulator-5/

bosten17

quick questins lets say i go with the fmu upgrade the fuel pump get a missing link and adjustable fuel pressure regualtor timing is my only other question will have to retard the timing on the low of boost?

bosten17

if so do you suggest manually doing it or getting a msd boost timing ignition