Turbo Air Filter setup - is this okay??
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Turbo Air Filter setup - is this okay??
I modified my old short ram and a WR air filter for my turbo air filter , do you guys think this is okay and I will not lose power, etc? BTW, I know the air filter is kinda low but I do not drive the car in rain, etc...
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Re: Turbo Air Filter setup - is this okay?? (pcguy760)
You should be fine. Its gonna restrict it somewhat but your turbo will last a long time with no debri getting inside it.
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Re: Turbo Air Filter setup - is this okay?? (SD_Lurker)
Good to hear! I am wondering though, how much would it restrict it and will I lose some hp or something?? Thx.
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Re: Turbo Air Filter setup - is this okay?? (pcguy760)
I have a GT3076R with the 4" anti surge inlet. I made a 4" intake out of aluminum and put a K&N filter on it. Picked up almost 20whp over just a screen.
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Re: Turbo Air Filter setup - is this okay?? (sp00led)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sp00led »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a GT3076R with the 4" anti surge inlet. I made a 4" intake out of aluminum and put a K&N filter on it. Picked up almost 20whp over just a screen.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow, so you're saying an intake tube would actually ADD power?
Wow, so you're saying an intake tube would actually ADD power?
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Re: Turbo Air Filter setup - is this okay?? (pcguy760)
technically yes in some circumstances if inlet temps change etc; but remember, he has a different inlet setup than you. Really, you shouldn't see much of a loss if any at all, the only thing I would do is change the weapon R filter and run a K&N.
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Re: Turbo Air Filter setup - is this okay?? (GT35R_EF)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GT35R_EF »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">technically yes in some circumstances if inlet temps change etc; but remember, he has a different inlet setup than you. Really, you shouldn't see much of a loss if any at all, the only thing I would do is change the weapon R filter and run a K&N. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow I just searched Google and found that the Apexi air filter leaves K&N and other leading brands in the dust (literally lol).
Wow I just searched Google and found that the Apexi air filter leaves K&N and other leading brands in the dust (literally lol).
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Re: Turbo Air Filter setup - is this okay?? (pcguy760)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pcguy760 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Wow I just searched Google and found that the Apexi air filter leaves K&N and other leading brands in the dust (literally lol).</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is it the one with the vortex cone or whatever? I've read good reviews on those too
Wow I just searched Google and found that the Apexi air filter leaves K&N and other leading brands in the dust (literally lol).</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is it the one with the vortex cone or whatever? I've read good reviews on those too
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UK Accord »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I use an Apexi Power Intake works well for me and has the best filtration.
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Yeah they are rated better than K&N but the price is another story ...
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Yeah they are rated better than K&N but the price is another story ...
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Re: (sp00led)
Dont really worry about HP loss on the car due to the filter plus when you dyno just take it off you will know your true HP anyways and if anything is lossed with using a Filter it is so Minumul at least with my findinds im running a K&N filter works just fine as long as it is not dirty.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sp00led »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">To bad the largest ID is just short of 3". No hope for my 4" anti surge inlet. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I guess you could get a silicone transition coupler 3" to 4" perhaps?
I guess you could get a silicone transition coupler 3" to 4" perhaps?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pcguy760 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I guess you could get a silicone transition coupler 3" to 4" perhaps?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Vibrant Performance part no. 2775 (black coupler)
Or you could grab a bellmouth velocity stack and strap that to the turbine inlet and strap a K&N onto the stack. I believe BPI makes a kit so you don't have to shop around.
I myself have a K&N filter strapped right onto the turbine inlet, it's a 4" ID Inlet filter, goes right onto my T3/60-1 w/.70ar coldside.
I guess you could get a silicone transition coupler 3" to 4" perhaps?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Vibrant Performance part no. 2775 (black coupler)
Or you could grab a bellmouth velocity stack and strap that to the turbine inlet and strap a K&N onto the stack. I believe BPI makes a kit so you don't have to shop around.
I myself have a K&N filter strapped right onto the turbine inlet, it's a 4" ID Inlet filter, goes right onto my T3/60-1 w/.70ar coldside.
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Yea you'll be fine. Mine is in a similar postition but more out of the way of rain. Have had it like this for two years now.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bdogggut34/2460908268/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bdogggut34/2460908268/
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BDogggUT34 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yea you'll be fine. Mine is in a similar postition but more out of the way of rain. Have had it like this for two years now.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bdogggut34/2460908268/</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was going to do it like that too, but then I figure since I never drive it in the rain might as well get some of that "cold air" haha
http://www.flickr.com/photos/bdogggut34/2460908268/</TD></TR></TABLE>
I was going to do it like that too, but then I figure since I never drive it in the rain might as well get some of that "cold air" haha
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Re: Turbo Air Filter setup - is this okay?? (pcguy760)
have a GT3076R with the 4" anti surge inlet. I made a 4" intake out of aluminum and put a K&N filter on it. Picked up almost 20whp over just a screen.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pcguy760 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Wow, so you're saying an intake tube would actually ADD power?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It usually does with a decent filter, because the mesh of the screen on the turbo inlet takes up space, effectively reducing the size of the opening to the turbo. The filter has a lot more area than the cross sectional area of the 4" inlet, so it is usually less of a restriction.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pcguy760 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Wow, so you're saying an intake tube would actually ADD power?</TD></TR></TABLE>
It usually does with a decent filter, because the mesh of the screen on the turbo inlet takes up space, effectively reducing the size of the opening to the turbo. The filter has a lot more area than the cross sectional area of the 4" inlet, so it is usually less of a restriction.
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Re: Turbo Air Filter setup - is this okay?? (Root of all Evil)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Root of all Evil »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I lost 12 whp by removing my 3'' inlet pipe with aem filter. Safer also.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wow, did you put it back? What was your reason for removing it? I am just curious today haha
Wow, did you put it back? What was your reason for removing it? I am just curious today haha
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id highly recommend running a k&n filter or aem dry flow. its just so much better quality filters. here my intake
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Re: Turbo Air Filter setup - is this okay?? (DelSolMarine)
Wow thats nice - oh btw, how can I stop the hot air from the radiator heating up the intake pipe - can I use some kinda wrap or paint or should I just leave it alone?
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Re: Turbo Air Filter setup - is this okay?? (pcguy760)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pcguy760 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Wow, did you put it back? What was your reason for removing it? I am just curious today haha </TD></TR></TABLE>
I put it back on. I just wanted to reinforce my belief that it would lose power because of the surface area lost.
Wow, did you put it back? What was your reason for removing it? I am just curious today haha </TD></TR></TABLE>
I put it back on. I just wanted to reinforce my belief that it would lose power because of the surface area lost.
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Re: Turbo Air Filter setup - is this okay?? (Root of all Evil)
I just came across this site where they compared the same type of filter I have to a K&N and I think you guys should see it - very interesting ...
http://www.mimousa.com/weapon-r-secret-weapon.htm
http://www.mimousa.com/weapon-r-secret-weapon.htm
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Re: Turbo Air Filter setup - is this okay?? (pcguy760)
You'll find far more tuners who have gained power by adding a filter than those who lose power, as long as its not a tiny filter for a lawnmower or something...
I'm actually thinking of cutting some slits in my CF hood by the driver's headlight, since I have the filter there (topmount). The hood is fairly beatup anyways, and last owner put a 1/4" hole in that spot anyways.
BTW a bare turbo inlet won't work as well because the air doesn't converge all that well. That's the reason behind velocity stacks - keep the incoming air as smooth as possible. An intake tube helps straighten the air the same way.
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I'm actually thinking of cutting some slits in my CF hood by the driver's headlight, since I have the filter there (topmount). The hood is fairly beatup anyways, and last owner put a 1/4" hole in that spot anyways.
BTW a bare turbo inlet won't work as well because the air doesn't converge all that well. That's the reason behind velocity stacks - keep the incoming air as smooth as possible. An intake tube helps straighten the air the same way.
Screens FTL