My front mount is higher in relation to the ground than my bottom mount setup was. "bumps" are a non-issue. The power difference also is significant, it's not like it's only 5 hp, I remember someone picked up like 100whp from it during testing back in the day (based on trap speeds). The only cons not mentioned thus far is people trying to steal the turbo. IE they rip off the front bumper and try and take the turbo. Lots of pros, I have no issues with my radiator/downpipe, my intercooler piping is super short and very easy to route. This has been the thing with street evo's for a long time now. It's nothing new, I think every modded evo in my area is running a front mount turbo.

 

front mount track only

 

my best friend has front mount on his ek Hugh power difference but already had to attempts on turbo f**king thevies

 

B A N D W A G O N...

Unless a full race car and/or you are running SOLID mounts everywhere with the turbo braced (MOUNTED) to the cars frame forget it, or DONT and be sure to post pics when it breaks.

I dont understand the need to follow completely impractical trends on a street car, plus it looks like *** IMO...

 

heres my setup. AFI intercooler, AFI front mount mani, S366ET, yadda yadda, etc


Yes you will have some cutting to do of the frame to fit the turbo ( depending on size ), yes its baller, yes it will be driven a few miles a week ( less then 30 total ) no its not smart to street drive it, yes im pleased with my purchase.

 

Could always use a top mount....buy an extra headlight for cheap and cut a hole through it for the fresh cooler ambient air... then use ur original headlight when u want to street it.

 

can you explain to me what is so impractical about it? the turbo doesnt sit any farther away from the block on a properly built setup designed for the street. it doesnt sit any lower, you can get a filter on it. im really not sure where the downfall is here.

 

What't the real advantage of the front facing manifold? Is the particular design, more straight and linear? What could be in real numbers the advantage of this solution over a classic solution?
Thanks....

 

The only real advantages would be seen in an all out racecar, which is ne of the reasons its retarded for the street, If you dont run SOLID mounts, and have it (the turbo) SECURELY braced to the car, its doomed to fail...


No thanks.

Just an opinion

 

should be decent.

 

I defenitly saw that red Integra at the track and he was running pretty good on the tire setup he was working with. As far as top mount vs. front mount I would prefer the top mount only because it is safer and Mr. Miller made a good point he was only on the return road and lost a turbo.. I couldn't imagine driving something like that on the steet.

 

damn, thats a sick setup

 

most peoople will just use it to show off their turbos

 

I just recently fabbed up a front mount turbo setup on my Integra...

It's quite interesting, but this type of setup was the only way for me to retain power steering, a near straight 4" downpipe, a thick half-rad with OEM stock fan + OEM fan shroud, a 24" x 12" x 4" FMIC with full exposure to airflow, and still have room for a long runner twinscroll/divided manifold... I can reach every exhaust manifold nut/bolt with a ratchet as well and that's a bonus...lol

What kind of setup is out there that allows all that? How about a ramhorn? Not too doable unless you run a pusher fan on the radiator and a tight radiused bend right from the turbo in order to run a 4" downpipe. I don't like pusher fans or any aftermarket thin fans either for obvious reasons.

For a topmount manifold, there's no room for power steering. It won't clear the stock fan + fan shroud either with a topmount manifold and a 4" downpipe.
You also end up with about 2 feet longer of a downpipe versus a front-mount manifold that's 2 feet shorter instead.

Just some interesting facts I thought I'd share. I was thrilled to see how much room I have gained going with the front mount setup. My car is a full street car, winter driven and everything so I built this setup with those things in mind. I daily drive this car during spring/fall/winter.

Here's are some pics:

 

Where can I find or buy this front mount manifold like yours? I have an Integra and I don't mind putting a kit like this to mine w/ the power steering in place thanks Tony. By the way, your look sick.

 

Tony would probably have to make it. This isn't something you just "buy".

At least the turbocharger itself is higher, to the right and less likely in harm's way. The intercooler is large enough that it still takes up a majority of the front bumper still. And of course there is a decent screen on it . (Can't tell if that's a GT4088R, GT35R, or some equivalent from the pic)

Good job. Looks much more likely to survive than the other mock ups I've seen on here.

 

Looks great. Thanks for sharing. Why did you not go with the 6265?

 

nice setup tony. theres a lot of haters for the front mount setup but it is more ideal than a ramhorn(except if you want a/c of course) and top mount. 4" downpipe with stock fan shroud who wouldn't want that. can you fit a filter behind the bumper on yours? looks like you're using a velocity stack on yours? i like the hiem joint.

i just use a short 4" k&n filter hard to see but fits in there with no cutting or anything.

 

Because Tony is a Garrett man. Always has been, and more than likely always will be. He probably had these on his shelves already

 

I like the precautions and bracing that Tony did on his setup. man can you imagine Ebay front mount setups? lol...I see so many people trying to cheap out on setups its ridiculous....if you do it right and brace your setup, and take your necessary precautions then I dont see why this wouldnt be any different if not better than a Topmount setup

 

Exactly. for most people who do front mount systems like this, its about looking good, not protecting their investment. Or a specific purpose You know what they always say.... the devil is in the details

 

ROFL... But you got it right for sure, I am a Garrett man and seems like anything else besides Garrett gives me problems. I just blew up a brand new PTE 6265 billet dual BB a little over a week ago with one pull.

This setup was made so I could maximize the efficiency of the old GT4088R... I just wanted slightly better midrange out of the setup due to my compression drop. If I needed more power, it will be the GT4094R. It will be Garrett turbos only from now on (well, or HKS turbos which is the same stuff as Garrett).

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I built the manifold with thin gauge rolled stainless steel tubing, so the entire manifold is about 8 lbs give or take some. All my manifolds, whether it was my old ramhorn, or the one on my Supra, were braced properly and also thin gauge tubing. There are so much benefits with thin tubing if the strength issue is properly addressed. It's not just a bunch of mounting tabs and metal brackets on the manifold either. I follow exactly based on which direction the manifold would expand, and I let it expand while taking off the weight load on the manifold as it heats up. That's the proper way to do it. I never had a manifold crack on me for the past 7-8 years on any of my cars

 

Or one of mine ;-) (which is the same thing anyway.)

 

the one thing you should understand is looks are cool yes but your not using the car for looks its a street car. it will see more abuse than if you just hard parked it and put it in car shows.

yes im right on par with doing somthing new or diffrent but there are many diffrent mani designs that you cold go with that will benifit you the most.

our are reasoning behind turbos are an increase in power. but what you gotta realize is that you need somthing thats efficent. not just "looks sick" save your **** and dont do it. if you want a good street car talk to me or the shodan for a great turbo set up, that will walk away from your front facing turbo friend oh and out last him.

IMO! kids

 

Would you happen to have that K&N part number for that filter? I have a JDM front integra and will be doing the front mount set up. Thanks! In advance