Too much fuel/ too much timing??
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Hmm
You need to provide some more info, what's the setup what exactly is happening because the video is poor quality. Have you thought about doing a datalog?
You need to provide some more info, what's the setup what exactly is happening because the video is poor quality. Have you thought about doing a datalog?
Its a fully built LSV garrett gt30 turbo rc650 injectors, 255 fuel pump, hondata s300 and yes ive datalogged and it goes all the way to 10afr and feels like it just back off itself... here is my high speed ignition
Oh hey youre the IAT guy from the tuning forum. LOL where do I begin?
1.) your ignition table ends at 0.4psi. You have not rescaled this basemap for boost.
2.) therefore the ignition your engine was running was that of the 0.4psi column, probably detonating
3.) your wideband pegs the gauge at 10 which is way too rich..
Please get it professionally tuned ASAP!
1.) your ignition table ends at 0.4psi. You have not rescaled this basemap for boost.
2.) therefore the ignition your engine was running was that of the 0.4psi column, probably detonating
3.) your wideband pegs the gauge at 10 which is way too rich..
Please get it professionally tuned ASAP!
**** how do i get to boost tables on hondata lol i didnt tune it my buddy did how do i view boost tables? and pump gas yes. Please dont hate lol im just trying to see what he has done wrong. Im going to get a dyno tune in a few weeks just want to see what he did thats making it do that so he can fix it. Havent been able to get a hold of him so i want to know what to tell him. He said he thinks too much timing.... Anyhow yeah how do i view boost tables
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Wow. Please dont take offense to this but you and your friend are way out of your league. Stay out of boost until you can drive it to a tuner. If you continue what you did in the video you will damage your engine, if you haven't already.
Lol im not taking offense at all.. But I was just curious to what the hell was going on. I agree tuning is out of my leauge, im a builder! lol
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Stop dicking with it before you make things worse..drive it like a grandma until you can take it to an experienced tuner
Oh hey youre the IAT guy from the tuning forum. LOL where do I begin?
1.) your ignition table ends at 0.4psi. You have not rescaled this basemap for boost.
2.) therefore the ignition your engine was running was that of the 0.4psi column, probably detonating
3.) your wideband pegs the gauge at 10 which is way too rich..
Please get it professionally tuned ASAP!
1.) your ignition table ends at 0.4psi. You have not rescaled this basemap for boost.
2.) therefore the ignition your engine was running was that of the 0.4psi column, probably detonating
3.) your wideband pegs the gauge at 10 which is way too rich..
Please get it professionally tuned ASAP!
number 2 is false. there are boost tables, just not shown.
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OP:
We understand how concern you are with how your vehicle is running but we (Honda-tech) can not suggest how much timing needs to be added or taken away. Each motor is different just like each human is different. I take 2 800 milligram Motrin when I have a headache and that works for me while less dosage may work for someone else. All I'm saying is, it's best to take it to a professional tuner and have them tune the motor.
We understand how concern you are with how your vehicle is running but we (Honda-tech) can not suggest how much timing needs to be added or taken away. Each motor is different just like each human is different. I take 2 800 milligram Motrin when I have a headache and that works for me while less dosage may work for someone else. All I'm saying is, it's best to take it to a professional tuner and have them tune the motor.
As I agree ^^ I just don't have the funds right this second so I was just wondering if there wassomething I child tell my street tuner to look at.
If you like me and want to play with the tune yourself be prepared to do lots of learning. I spent months reading up on how electronic fuel injection works. Read up on books written by professionals such as Greg Banish which is also and OEM calibrator (tuner) for GM. His books and DVDs are fantastic and will give you so much insight into what's going on.
Next prepare to break things as you learn. I started by tuning my motor NA first. Most guys get to impatient and just want to boost right away. It takes a lot of time. I drove around for a few months NA while I was collecting parts for the turbo build and kept tuning away and learning all the ins and outs. Then when I finally did boost I started out small and only ran 2 lbs of boost for a few months while tinkering and tweaking and making sure I knew what I was doing. I also invested in a J&S Vampire anti-knock system so when I did screw up and over timed it instead of detonating and blowing up the Vampire safely pulls timing, kills power, and lights up an LED to let you know what's going on. If you're a self tuner like myself and like to tinker I highly recommend investing in a Vampire.
If the above seems like to much effort or time spent then just get it tuned by someone else or you'll be buying a new motor real soon and starting over.
Next prepare to break things as you learn. I started by tuning my motor NA first. Most guys get to impatient and just want to boost right away. It takes a lot of time. I drove around for a few months NA while I was collecting parts for the turbo build and kept tuning away and learning all the ins and outs. Then when I finally did boost I started out small and only ran 2 lbs of boost for a few months while tinkering and tweaking and making sure I knew what I was doing. I also invested in a J&S Vampire anti-knock system so when I did screw up and over timed it instead of detonating and blowing up the Vampire safely pulls timing, kills power, and lights up an LED to let you know what's going on. If you're a self tuner like myself and like to tinker I highly recommend investing in a Vampire.
If the above seems like to much effort or time spent then just get it tuned by someone else or you'll be buying a new motor real soon and starting over.
Bvillarreal.... Spend some time at least reading through the help file in the s300 before you come here asking for help. The s300 actually has a good help file explaining everything you're asking about. If you're going to tune your own car, at least READ THE HELP FILE!!! How much would it take to spend a couple mins and read the help file! You guys really surprise me sometimes.
This^
And, if you know how
Post up a Log. You should have atleast been Logging, if your trying to make Power Pulls on a Fresh Setup.
It wont be very helpful if your Tables are not Setup to reed Boost. Would be cool to see it though
And, if you know how
Post up a Log. You should have atleast been Logging, if your trying to make Power Pulls on a Fresh Setup.It wont be very helpful if your Tables are not Setup to reed Boost. Would be cool to see it though
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pull the wastegate spring out and don't drive like a jackass.... this way the turbo won't make any boost and you'll save your motor until you can get it properly tuned.
no amount of online reading will tell you how to tune your car... its something that comes from experience and time..... you have to know how to "feel" what the car is doing when you're tuning.
no amount of online reading will tell you how to tune your car... its something that comes from experience and time..... you have to know how to "feel" what the car is doing when you're tuning.





