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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 07:39 AM
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my timing is all the way advanced at the distributor and i still cant get it to stock timing.

i have a b16 w/ gsr hear. could the deck height be throwing the timing off?
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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u need a timing gun, u will *** your **** up if u dont do it right
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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i used a timing gun
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 04:44 PM
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check your timing belt!
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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did you change the timing while on a dyno ? or did you do it at home ?
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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Wow, know for sure before you start trying ****. You can really f*ck your motor up if you're not careful.
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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Did you jump your service connector before setting the timing?
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by downeyballz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my timing is all the way advanced at the distributor and i still cant get it to stock timing.

i have a b16 w/ gsr hear. could the deck height be throwing the timing off?</TD></TR></TABLE>
how exactly are you setting timing? Is it an adjustable advance timing light? If it is what do you have the dial set at and what mark on the crank pulley are you aiming for?
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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at evans tunning. so im guessing he knows what hes talking about when he told me he can only get 12 degrees of timing with the distribtor all the way advanced. i think its a combo of gsr head w/ b16 block or possibly a distributor issue.
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 06:47 PM
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wait lets get some more details on the set-up
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by downeyballz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">at evans tunning. so im guessing he knows what hes talking about when he told me he can only get 12 degrees of timing with the distribtor all the way advanced. i think its a combo of gsr head w/ b16 block or possibly a distributor issue.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sounds like something with the cam timing. I had an issue on a car a few days ago I was tuning where i couldn't get more than 0 degrees with the base idle timing set at 16* in the timing maps. It turned out to be way messed up cam timing. I fixed that and everything was gravey

I would think if Jeff could only get 12 degrees with it all the way advanced he probably added 4* throughout the maps to resync everything to where it needs to be which would bring base timing back to 16*. Are you sure he didn't set all that up correctly for you already?
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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yeah the car was tunned and everything worked out good. im just wondering why im having this problem, it seems odd. and the car was also a little down on power and maybe this has someting to do with it.
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Old Jun 9, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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like i asked details on the set-up like shue said your cams maybe off and are they aftermarket or stock ? if they are stock do you have cam gears ?
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 07:30 PM
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itr cams w/ stock itr cam gears
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Old Jun 10, 2007 | 08:14 PM
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i had this problem when i got my comp cam (zex cam) for my d16z6. i just notched the dizzy legs so i could move it more. no problems for the past 2 years.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 05:47 PM
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i was thinking that might work. or getting adjustible cam gears and adding timing that way. but i want to find out whats causing this. after i change the valve seals ill re-set the timing and cheak it again.
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 06:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by downeyballz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was thinking that might work. or getting adjustible cam gears and adding timing that way. but i want to find out whats causing this. after i change the valve seals ill re-set the timing and cheak it again.</TD></TR></TABLE>

get the cam gears
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Old Jun 11, 2007 | 06:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony413 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

get the cam gears </TD></TR></TABLE>

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