RACEPAK

hi guys,

i was thinking about changing ectune to hondata s300,

any major benefits?

tnx

bigD

why?

kreatekustomz

/\ /\ /\ /\ Good question. If the car is running good on the current tune why change it? You will hear a lot of tuners talk about how much tech support there is behind the S300 and it is a tried and true system, however; if your getting good results with the tune you have dont change it

b20beast83

i would never change ectune to hondata
thats going backward imho

non-VTEC

makes no sense to do that unless there is something specific s300 has over ectune...but i dont believe there is....

Turbogixxer

It matters what you are looking for. S300 is a simple software that people like. The thing that ECtune lacks that is big for me is onboard datalogging. Neptune/hondata both have it and works good.

Matters what you are wanting. It is not a step back IMO.

RACEPAK

i'm actualy tyred of updating it all the time, and waiting for the reg string and/or the ostrich licanse,

there were times my car didnt moved more then a week because of waiting for licanses and stuff, not to mention a day here and a day there,

bigD

if you use ectune with the demon you will have onboard data logging.

1.5Slowmatic

^^took the words out my mouth

chippinpressure

if its runnin hard leave it alone unless ur tired of always having to deal with the support or the lic.bs .the s300 alot more simple and support is great

093turbo16

iTrader: (2)

If you already have an ostrich, another dcent route would be the NepTune RTP system.

HRtuning is now offering a trade in / trade up package. Where you can trade in your old ostrich and logging stuff and get a pretty nice discount off a brand new Demon RTP package with the neptune license. There are no "forced updates" with NepTune and the support is absolutely top notch!

Just giving you another option if you really do want to try something new.

Info is here http://www.hrtuning.com/pages/category/tradein

RACEPAK

nice to know, about the trade option, ill think about it,

AND NOW AGAIN: seems like i dont have a car to drive until the holiday ends, ECTUNE

HRTuning

Plus you get a 20 day 100% satisfaction guarantee with NepTune RTP, from the date of delivery to your door. Full refund on the system + your hardware back if you're not satisfied. I think you will be, though.

Turbogixxer

when I talked to calvin at PRI (early december) Ectune does not have onboard datalogging and the last time I checked they did not. I just checked again and no onboard data logging.

So hondata and Neptune are the only ones right now.

HRTuning

eCtune will have it some day... I mean, it's in the hardware already and it's super easy to implement... so he just basically needs to take an hour and do something about it. Literally an hour.

Turbogixxer

Yeah, Not playing sides, because hondata has it too.

That trade in is a sweet deal. I will have to tell a customer about it.

HRTuning

I understand. I just don't want people to bail on getting eCtune Demon if that's what they really want because it will have on board logging soon I'm sure.

HiProfile

I'm sending a PM regarding that... but I can say here to always upload at least a "base" to your ostrich. If I was to get rid of ectune myself, I'd only go to Neptune - not Hondata. Hondata may give major tuners great support, but not so much the DIY end-user. The only good thing about Hondata is that so many shops around here can tune it. Where you live I don't think that's the case.


HRTuning, what if you already have an Demon? Are we forced to buy another?

HRTuning

If you already have a Demon you just need a license for the NepTune software and that's mentioned on the page.

For anyone who just buys a license for a Demon you already have, I can't offer the satisfaction guarantee for that option since there's no way to cancel the license once you have it. I'd basically be giving you a refund and you'd still have NepTune anyway, which I simply can't do. So the guarantee only applies if you buy a new NepTune RTP setup or trade-in Ostrich hardware to upgrade.

With the introduction of toolbars that give access to all major tuning functions, I don't think there's a tuner out there who can say they can't tune a NepTune RTP. You don't even need to learn the quick keys anymore.

madblkscientist

that sucks u have to keep registering and u have 2 wait for a license why is it set up that way

madblkscientist

is there a way to use ectune with out the possibility of being stranded because of an update and license ,what would cause u to even need a license to get up n running again

RACEPAK

sometimes i do keep it in the ostrich, and other times i dont since i use it to tune other cars with crome,

i did tryed once to contact hondata to ask them about the hondata map sensor setting and they didnt helpd me that much, so i guess your right.

but i tune my one car, so i guess i wont have any problems there,

the only problam i actualy have is that i need my ostich and hulog since i tune other cars with them,

does neptune have innovate lm2 support?

thanks

HRTuning

No idea why it's setup that way. It certainly didn't have to be.

The Demon hardware shouldn't need updated licenses, so get a Demon and you won't have to deal with that. For the Ostrich you're unfortunately stuck dealing with it.

You can use the latest Crome with the Demon you get for NepTune and still tune for other people. You can easily switch back and forth, it's mentioned right on the info page. Or you can keep the Ostrich/Hulog and just get the whole NepTune package. Still save a lot over Hondata.

It supports LC-1/LM-1 natively and LM-2 via a serial interface cable, not USB. I'm looking into USB support for the LM-2, however they don't offer a Mac version of their SDK and I have a Mac version of NepTune. The Mac and Windows versions need to have the same feature set, as they should since it's one product.

LightningTeg

I dont understand whats wrong? I registered my ostrich and license once (almost a year ago) when I got it and ectune has never "stranded" me. The forced updates are lame, but I think its a nice piece of software all round. Its great for DIY'ers.

Tony the Tiger

Well, the key question would be which software your particular tuner is good with?

Let your tuner choose the software