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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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how much do head gaskets lower compression, and what is the best to buy
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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depends on what kind of gasket you buy. cometic makes good ones, but they are $$
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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i dont care how much what lowers it the most
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 02:00 PM
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depends on the thickness, google is your friend.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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I have a inline pro head gasket coming out of my motor now....I will sell it for 100 bucks....all you will need is 2 factory honda gaskets to sandwich the plate in....it drops compression one full point
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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cometic makes a .120 gasket now which drops it almsot a full 2 points...
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 06:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TegRaceR98 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much do head gaskets lower compression, and what is the best to buy</TD></TR></TABLE>

the thicker it is the lower it will go, so there is ur answer. now how low it goes from the .XXX I don't know. but if u resurface ur head the same amt. it will even out.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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Is this the RIGHT way to lower compression on a motor that is going turbo. Or is it considered a hack?
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 10:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tchleung &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cometic makes a .120 gasket now which drops it almsot a full 2 points...</TD></TR></TABLE>


like 2.0 or .2?
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 11:23 PM
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2.0
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 11:34 PM
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imo....thicker headgasket isnt the right way to lower comp.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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.120 = 3mm it takes the compression of a gsr motor down to about 9.2:1.

And yes this really isn't the right way to lower your compression but its cheaper than pistons, machining and in some cases downtime.

The difference between a stock motor and droping the compression with a headgasket is about 50-60whp extra that you are going to gain, this is with a turbo kit and some good tuning.

If you look around here your gona see a lot of stock motor setups dynoing anywhere from 290whp to 310whp (B-series), now with a headgasket your looking at about a 350-370whp dyno chart.
With a headgasket like this your gona have some leaks here and there like coolant seepage as well as oil if not installed correctly.

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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 03:35 AM
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nothing wrong with thicker headgasket. its been proven and it works.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 04:25 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.120 = 3mm it takes the compression of a gsr motor down to about 9.2:1.

And yes this really isn't the right way to lower your compression but its cheaper than pistons, machining and in some cases downtime.

The difference between a stock motor and droping the compression with a headgasket is about 50-60whp extra that you are going to gain, this is with a turbo kit and some good tuning.

If you look around here your gona see a lot of stock motor setups dynoing anywhere from 290whp to 310whp (B-series), now with a headgasket your looking at about a 350-370whp dyno chart.
With a headgasket like this your gona have some leaks here and there like coolant seepage as well as oil if not installed correctly.

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bingo.

its a cheap way to make either a lot more power that will break down in the same amount of time as without it, or a little more power and last a little longer.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 07:04 AM
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so, best one to get?
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 07:19 AM
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ive heard good things about the inline pro headgaskets...
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 08:14 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">.120 = 3mm it takes the compression of a gsr motor down to about 9.2:1.</TD></TR></TABLE>

where did you get that info?

On c-speed racing and other C/R calculators it drops a GSR to 8.26:1 and a b16 to 8.21:1
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 08:31 AM
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where can i get that head gasket
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 09:06 AM
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I believe some of the sponsors here carry them.. check in the FI sponsor section or jsut do a search for Cometic .120" I remember a sponsor posting about it.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostjunkie757 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive heard good things about the inline pro headgaskets...</TD></TR></TABLE>


they are the best like I said earlier it has been in my car for 2 years at over 1bar of boost and not one issue. it is 3mm and drops compresson 1 point.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:43 AM
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yah, mine lowers compression by 1.1. stock itr internals are supposed to be strong, so im testing that theory. at 9.5:1, it could handle more than 11 psi, but i dont want to push it THAT much.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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your HP is gettin up there for the stock ring lands but I ran 1.1bar on 114/93 mix so the gasket holds that with about 300whp
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The difference between a stock motor and droping the compression with a headgasket is about 50-60whp extra that you are going to gain, this is with a turbo kit and some good tuning.

If you look around here your gona see a lot of stock motor setups dynoing anywhere from 290whp to 310whp (B-series), now with a headgasket your looking at about a 350-370whp dyno chart.
With a headgasket like this your gona have some leaks here and there like coolant seepage as well as oil if not installed correctly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i don't see how lowering your compression that much with a thicker headgasket is gonna gain you hp. Your just gonna have to run more boost to make up for the loss in compression.
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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The Greddy gasket for the D16 lowers it .6

So for a D16Z6 it would be 8.6:1.

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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostR41 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your HP is gettin up there for the stock ring lands but I ran 1.1bar on 114/93 mix so the gasket holds that with about 300whp</TD></TR></TABLE>


my car RARELY sees full boost....even on low boost.
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