Ok guys... I just want to know if you would do it or if you are someone that already did some lapping with his turbo Honda.

Personnaly I know that my engine is really strong and I have everything in place to help the cooling of the engine. Here is my setup :



D16Z6 Benson sleeved block ( no head gasket problems eheh )
CP pistons
Zex 59300 cam
PLX M300 WB
AEM EMS
MSD igniton SCI +coil
Crower springs + retainer
Cometic MLS HG
Eagle rods
PWR radiator with a slim fan.
B&M oil cooler mounted right behing the intercooler with the thermostat that came with the kit.
Edelbrock IM
SC50 .63AR
Ceramic coated Lovefab SST manifold
Wrapped 3 inch DP
JDM ZC DOHC 3,4 and 5th gear
etc...

Omni sport coilover with the 675lbs at the rear and 565 lbs at the front ( btw they are really nice in term of handling capacity belive me but im just disapointed about the fact the some people cracked their front sleeves... )
11 inch front brake ITR caliper
Civic EX rear brake
Cobalt GT sport on each corner
HANKOOK Z211 205/50/15

Of course I wont lap with the 15 psi setting but at 10 psi only +- 260whp, at 15 psi im at 300whp. It will be 20 min sessions

The only thing im worried about is the turbo... does it really take a ball bearing turbo to take this kind of abuse....

Oh and this is on a small track... lots of curves and not that much straight line...

Tell me what you think about that !


Modified by yellowturbo at 2:47 PM 8/10/2005


Modified by yellowturbo at 1:55 PM 8/24/2005

 

I don't see why not, I just turn the boost down when I race.

 

as long as its tuned right, i'm sure you wont have any problems.

 

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dito... and you don't need a bb turbo for racing... i race my former T3 a lot without any problems. the only thing is that you better let it cool down befor shut off the engine especialy if its only oil cooled... but then you won't have any problems at all....

 

im well tuned. I cant see between 11.0 and 12.0 on my WB when im under load or boostin.

Thanks to makes me more confident lol !

 

if your part throttle tables are tunned well all the way up to redline your good. on small tracks with lots of turns you spend the majority of you time in 5-8k in 2nd...if your competitive...if your just having fun then you dont need to keep the rpms up in turns as much.
have fun watch your temp gauge!( you could go to walmart and tape one of those indoor outdoor digital thermometers up, tape the lead up right by your turbo mani/turbo and the other to the front of your bumper...with that you can see how hot your running the turbo(oil) and you can see generaly what temp air you cooling it with. if the temp outside raises considerable then you know you need to compensate engine bay temps some how) this is where electric water pumps come in handy!).

 

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get the replacements ASAP, i wouldnt want to read about how you went to the track and smacked the wall.

 

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get the replacements ASAP, i wouldnt want to read about how you went to the track and smacked the wall.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah I will get them before I go to the track lol !

 

I would look at making sure that you have a baffled pan as well. I'm running both ball-bearing turbo, oil cooler and road-race, and the oil pump and pick-up could easily be starved of oil. In fact, it was just a couple of seconds and I starved the head at a turn.... If not the Moroso pan, at least something similar.

 

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I forgot to mention that I have the Moroso road race / strip aluminium pan

so I think that im set.

 

seems like you are very well setup

Just keep an eye on those oil temps and egt's if you have the appropriate instrumentation.

 

I have track'd my turbo ITR on totally stock block running on AFC hack for over a year before it was built. Semi large to large tracks with 120-130mph straights with no issues at all. It was redlined alot of the time as well I was really waiting for it to blow before rebuilding it but it held up amazingly well and much longer than I'd expected. In fact I think it would be still in one piece had it not been for the vac hose coming loose on my WG and boost went to moon cracking the ringlands. Considering management was bandaid with no timing mgmt, it held up good.

With your built block and tuned AEM, I would be boosting till the cows come home!! The only concerns tho, would be the temps - water and oil. I would certainly have an oil cooler in there at least and also vents, heat wraps etc... would all contribute to help keeping the temps in control..

ENJOY!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by swlabhot &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have track'd my turbo ITR on totally stock block running on AFC hack for over a year before it was built. Semi large to large tracks with 120-130mph straights with no issues at all. It was redlined alot of the time as well I was really waiting for it to blow before rebuilding it but it held up amazingly well and much longer than I'd expected. In fact I think it would be still in one piece had it not been for the vac hose coming loose on my WG and boost went to moon cracking the ringlands. Considering management was bandaid with no timing mgmt, it held up good.

With your built block and tuned AEM, I would be boosting till the cows come home!! The only concerns tho, would be the temps - water and oil. I would certainly have an oil cooler in there at least and also vents, heat wraps etc... would all contribute to help keeping the temps in control..

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eheh sweet this makes me feel good !

 

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is that pan aluminum or steel. it thought the road race/strip pan was steel

 

oil cooler would not hurt anything. I would install one.

 

So I did two sessions last monday... it was a BLAST of fun to drive and I didnt have any mechanical issue. Of course it take a really good car in good shape and well prepared.

Here is what I learned.

Never start with only 1/8 of tank... in the last session I was beginning to suck air in the tank during cornering I had to stop.

Never stop without doing a few cooling lad... the temp of my engine raised really fast and my overflow bottle was full... but after letting the fan on... all beacame normal.

10 psi ( +- 250whp ) was more than enought to get in front of a STI with some mods. All the other cars were out of the game even if they were excellent driver for some of them.

A performance brake pads like my Cobalt GT sport are not enought for my power level... should be good for a Type R by exemple. I need some Hawk black for the track.

I need a rear sway bar. ( progress 24mm adj. on is way )

My Omni sport are really not bad at all !!

I need some alignement adjustement and adjustable camber kit on each corner.

Here is two pics :

Me during a pass in the braking zone after a small straight line

 

Looks like you had alot of fun! Glad it all went nice and smooth for you.

 

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for sure I had lots of fun. Now I have to improve my suspension setup... ahhh man it never ends $$$$ lol

 

Looks like you had a lot of fun man! If I had the $$ i'd be out doing this in my turbo sohc as well. Is it fairly easy to stay in higher boost with that turbo on a road coarse or does it fall out of boost often?

 

Is this road racing? Without the cones, I mean.

If so you are my ******* hero. I've always wanted to do something like that, only in a F1 or supercar.

 

do you have an LSD?

 

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I like how the guys crowd around the hatch with the weird paint, gaytezzas, 19's, and I'm guessing a chrome'd out b16.

Sounds like a kickass motor, I'd hope cooling would be the only issue. I'm curious, how'd the other drivers react when they learned they got spanked by a SOHC? Same for those seeing it before you ran them?

 

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I like how the guys crowd around the hatch with the weird paint, gaytezzas, 19's, and I'm guessing a chrome'd out b16.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL. I didn't even notice that.

 

anyone notice there is nothing but hondas in the parking lot

nice car btw, sounds fun

 

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Even the truck...lol. Great pictures.

How were your brakes for fade? What fluid, SS lines? And how were the Hankook tires for wear (lots of laps?)...

IMO any street pad won't last for more than 20 hard laps on a big track... but real race pads can make you fill your shorts on the street, esp if you get any "real" winter weather or at the highway off-ramp if the brakes cooled off. Funny how my quickest corners at the track usually resemble long, sweeping right/left off-ramps, just like the one I get off every day at work... I try to pretend I don't notice my wife pulling down the grab handle a few seconds before I get there everyday...