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Old May 1, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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ok, maybe i'll explain my situation this time. by next spring-ish i plan on supercharging my z6. yeah, i don't know much about forced induction, and i will read up on it. but i still have a few unanswered questions, that i could not find by searching. - please don't bash

first, i was thinking the jackson supercharger, is this good for a pretty much stock engine?

second, fuel injectors - will i need to upgrade my fuel injectors with the jackson?

third - internals. will any internal stuff need to be upgraded? and how's about putting a mild cam (stage 1) in?

fourth - pulleys. i was gonna throw a AEM pulley kit on, just because i can get one for free from a friend, will this bother anything with the pulley on the supercharger?

and lastly, how long can i expect this to last, if only get on it occasionally?

i know its a good amount of questions, but i've been searching for the answers. please don't bash me on this thread like the last one, i just want some info. i will read up on FI, but for right now i have a chance to get most of the parts above at a really good price. all help is appreciated, thanks
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Old May 1, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Why are you going supercharger? So it can be slower than a turbo car?
1. Sure
2. Yes
3. The motor will hold more power with internals but if you're going to build the motor then the supercharger is not going to be able to put near the power out a turbo will.
4. Pulley kits ruin your bearings
5. If it's built right? As long as you want
Stock? As long as it's tuned and you don't snap a rod, pretty long.

Read up noob!
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Old May 1, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Yes for stock motor it would be fine! upgrade your fuel pump to a 255lp Walbro or whatever brand you prefer. Jackson doesn't recommend cams so thats also your call. Internals should be fine unless your not tuned properly. as far as longevity it all depends on tuning and how strong your motor is(miles, maint, etc.) Good Luck
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Old May 4, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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The best advice I can give you is to read up about it for a long time so you can find what will be best for your needs. Because, after all, it is your car and only you know what you want out of it. Also, be very patient! I, as I am sure many have, had to learn the hard way by either getting ripped off or buying something that you didn't actually want/need after all. If you have any questions you can pm me, I don't mind.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 07:10 PM
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First i want to say I am in no way an expert! but from my experience of reading up on things I would suggest using the money you have for the kit, and mildly build your engine (forged internals most likely) and build your own turbo kit for at least 1/3 the price of a supercharger kit costs. But to each his own . If you want a supercharger, get a supercharger!
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Old May 4, 2005 | 07:16 PM
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If you sell your Z6 and combine that cash with the money you'd be spending on the JRSC, you'd be able to buy a B18B. That would be a better long term investment, IMHO.

As far as your questions, though, the JRSC is a perfectly safe addition to your otherwise stock Z6. It might gain you 30 or 40 whp, which is a gain you will definately feel, but more importantly, you'll ****** up probably 20 wtq through the powerband. Your car won't be a Mustang killer, but it'll be a lot more fun to drive .

And yes, everybody will tell you to go turbo because it's more flexible and more powerful, etc. etc., blah, blah, blah but at the end of the day the JRSC is a more hassle-free way to add some power and make your little Z6 a more lively powerplant. Cheers, bitches.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 07:17 PM
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Look up Gitwidit's old setup. Nitrous/JRSC that ran 12s. Superchargers aren't as lame as everyone says they are.
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Old May 4, 2005 | 07:53 PM
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first, i was thinking the jackson supercharger, is this good for a pretty much stock engine?

Yes, it's great, especially for daily drivability, nice flat torque curve, lots of fun, good for autox too if you get a LSD.

second, fuel injectors - will i need to upgrade my fuel injectors with the jackson?

Not if you keep it at the stock boost level. If you raise the boost, then wou will need some type of EMS and some bigger injectors. Even if you just keep it stock, you will want to at least get the JR MAP controller because the base method of using a resistor on your IAT sensor and grossly retarding your static timing will hurt your drivability. The JR BTC or a MSD BTM will allow you to restore full base timing, and I'd recommend them as well.

third - internals. will any internal stuff need to be upgraded? and how's about putting a mild cam (stage 1) in?

Stock internals are fine, even if you up the boost. If you get a cam, make sure it is a turbo cam, or some other cam that will decrease your overlap. I had my JRSC on a DOHC engine and decreasing my valve overlap with some cam gears made a huge difference.

fourth - pulleys. i was gonna throw a AEM pulley kit on, just because i can get one for free from a friend, will this bother anything with the pulley on the supercharger?

Don't do it, it will messs up the pulley ratio for the SC, and it won't make much of a difference.

and lastly, how long can i expect this to last, if only get on it occasionally?

It should last a long time, as long as your engine is healthy and you don't do anything stupid (like running 10 PSI of boost with an FMU for fuel management). You can get on it all the time if your fuel and timing management are correct. Personally I'd recommend an EMS like a Hondata, it will help you make the most of the JRSC and give you the best drivability.

i know its a good amount of questions, but i've been searching for the answers. please don't bash me on this thread like the last one, i just want some info. i will read up on FI, but for right now i have a chance to get most of the parts above at a really good price. all help is appreciated, thanks[/QUOTE]
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Old May 4, 2005 | 07:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1 cam &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Look up Gitwidit's old setup. Nitrous/JRSC that ran 12s. Superchargers aren't as lame as everyone says they are. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I've heard from several people that JRSC setups respond well to nitrous.
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