Stroker turbo..?
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ive been recently reading up on a stroker kit because my crank is shot.. but i havent seen to many people doing it with a turbo with the stroker kit.. ne advantages or disadvantages..?
faster turbo spool from increased displacement (obviously) and more torque from the longer stroke.
disadvantage is the longer stroke makes it less safe to rev the motor high because of piston speeds. or thats how i understand it anyways.
disadvantage is the longer stroke makes it less safe to rev the motor high because of piston speeds. or thats how i understand it anyways.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CoreyR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">faster turbo spool from increased displacement (obviously) and more torque from the longer stroke.
disadvantage is the longer stroke makes it less safe to rev the motor high because of piston speeds. or thats how i understand it anyways.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, that pretty much covers it. I think another reason is because of the cost as well. I'm not sure the torque advantage down low would be truly beneficial because most people have enough trouble hooking up on the street as it is.
But I say go for it. I haven't seen a stroked turbo setup posted on here before, so I think it'd be something cool. Just make sure its a B18 and not a B16.
Who knows, maybe you'll start the next bandwagon.
disadvantage is the longer stroke makes it less safe to rev the motor high because of piston speeds. or thats how i understand it anyways.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, that pretty much covers it. I think another reason is because of the cost as well. I'm not sure the torque advantage down low would be truly beneficial because most people have enough trouble hooking up on the street as it is.
But I say go for it. I haven't seen a stroked turbo setup posted on here before, so I think it'd be something cool. Just make sure its a B18 and not a B16.
Who knows, maybe you'll start the next bandwagon.
if u use a stroker kit, u gotta use oversize pistons which results in high comp, high comp = faster reving= faster spooling but causes ur motor to be unstable like a ****. thats why no one really boost itr motors and stuff and if they do they run low comp pistons
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeamYelloHead »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if u use a stroker kit, u gotta use oversize pistons which results in high comp, high comp = faster reving= faster spooling but causes ur motor to be unstable like a ****. thats why no one really boost itr motors and stuff and if they do they run low comp pistons</TD></TR></TABLE>
why do you HAVE gto used oversized pistons? you can stroke a stock bore, no?
and PLENTY of ppl boost ITR motors, they aren't that much higher than GSR's and the same basically as B16's
why do you HAVE gto used oversized pistons? you can stroke a stock bore, no?
and PLENTY of ppl boost ITR motors, they aren't that much higher than GSR's and the same basically as B16's
my bad i did some readin, i guess u can stroke a stock bore, but i think 10.6.1 comp on a usdm itr is pretty high for turbo, jdm spec itr is like 11.0.1. correct me if im wrong but gsr comp, isnt it like 9 or so.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You will already make more power than you can use just by adding the turbo. Stroker kits are more efficient on all motor applications.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not to mention the potential oil control issues, as witnessed by the tech43 B16 stroker setups.
Not to mention the potential oil control issues, as witnessed by the tech43 B16 stroker setups.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TeamYelloHead »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my bad i did some readin, i guess u can stroke a stock bore, but i think 10.6.1 comp on a usdm itr is pretty high for turbo, jdm spec itr is like 11.0.1. correct me if im wrong but gsr comp, isnt it like 9 or so.</TD></TR></TABLE>
USDM GSR is 10.0:1
JDM is 10.2:1
USDM b16 is 10.2:1
JDM b16 is 10.4:1
i THINK that's correct
USDM GSR is 10.0:1
JDM is 10.2:1
USDM b16 is 10.2:1
JDM b16 is 10.4:1
i THINK that's correct
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rhd »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
USDM GSR is 10.0:1
JDM is 10.2:1
USDM b16 is 10.2:1
JDM b16 is 10.4:1
i THINK that's correct</TD></TR></TABLE>
JDM GSR is 10.6
USDM GSR is 10.0:1
JDM is 10.2:1
USDM b16 is 10.2:1
JDM b16 is 10.4:1
i THINK that's correct</TD></TR></TABLE>
JDM GSR is 10.6
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boost_addict »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats wrong with the tech43 b16 stroker kits if u don't mind me askin</TD></TR></TABLE>
If you read up on them, you would find that the only ones on this board that were running were having oil control issues. The B16 deck height is just too damn short for an LS crank and LS rods, so the piston pin completely intersects the oil ring, which gives it much less support than if there were piston skirt behind it. This leads to lower tension on the oil ring, and more blowby/oil useage. I don't recall off the top of my head how bad it was, but it seemed pretty excessive on one of the motors.
If you read up on them, you would find that the only ones on this board that were running were having oil control issues. The B16 deck height is just too damn short for an LS crank and LS rods, so the piston pin completely intersects the oil ring, which gives it much less support than if there were piston skirt behind it. This leads to lower tension on the oil ring, and more blowby/oil useage. I don't recall off the top of my head how bad it was, but it seemed pretty excessive on one of the motors.
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