yellowsub

Why Dave (SuperT) got banned? I talked to him again about the issue and he told me that the person in question got his money and the turbo kit that dave sold even before he started his business. So how is dave now the scammer. I have yet to see any response from the moderators/admins. This seems really swept under the rug without even attempting to listen to what dave has said. I guess i can just go around calling people scammers if i want somebody banned.


Modified by yellowsub at 4:50 PM 4/9/2003

TheShocker

This isn't the right forum for this discussion, so maybe the mods can move it, but please keep it open.

On H-T it's too easy for someone to call a person or business a SCAMMER and everyone beleives it. Give the guy a chance to explain his side of the story.

alpha

This is the second good person I heard of getting banned in one day.

yellowsub

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 0x64 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This is the second good person I heard of getting banned in one day.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Who else?

TheShocker

I'm sure this thread will get locked or deleted soon. From Dave (SuperT):

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just realized, they must have Deleted the entire thread I made...I told the whole story about what really happened...a few people had posted some thumbsup and good job etc about what I wrote, obviously the mod who banned me didn't like people supporting me or exposing the real reason behind things...

He banned that second user name I made too and must have deleted the post...
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To this BS

TheShocker

Since no one is letting Dave put in his side of the story and his IP is banned so he cant even view the boards... I will post it for him:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">That transaction took place about a year ago, and it was a private selling
of a max rev manifold and max rev downpipe and a t3 turbo I had, it was not even my
product, it was sold private party to this individual.
He claimed the
merchandise DID not arrive! Heres the email from him saying he didn't
receive it and if you check the Fed EX tracking number, you can clearly see
Fed Ex delivered it!


"Dave,

I just checked the tracking page for the 045752655389742 package. It says
it was delivered to me, but I never received a package. What's up? It says
it was delivered friday.

And the other one has not shown up either, but it looks like its still on
delivery route. What's going on? "

He wanted a refund for the missing turbo saying I was liable. I said I would not refund his money as fed ex says they delivered it.

Two weeks later, he sends this B.S. story-

David,

"Good news: I just found out that one of my friends took the package from
the front door as a practical joke. He told me he did not open it, and
doesnt know what was in it, but thought it was a good payback joke. I have
yet to "talk" to him in person about it. Not cool, but I do want to let you
know I will get the turbo package in a hour or two. So I will be including
it back in the shipment and expect an immediate refund.


So now the missing parts turn up and he now wants a refund...

I said no, you tried to scam me out of a turbo you actually received...

He then called the police to try to force the refund...they would do nothing for him...

He then did a credit card chargeback and he got his full refund back...

So there is no longer any issue, it was resolved almost a year ago, yet I was banned with prejudice and not even asked my side of the story...

Truth is, I think we all know why I was banned, I believe a certain mod was looking for any excuse to ban me for retailiation for my previous controversial posts about another manufacturer on this board..

It is sad and unfortunate...

Respectfully,

David Gysland
Owner,
Super T Motorsports

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TheShocker

Looks like Camp1320 got banned to... https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=470363

paulzy

iTrader: (1)

This is Harsh....I jsut recently heard that Tom was banned also...THis is the best place to come for Honda/Acura technical knowledge and parts. I don't see how these 2 reputable guys got banned.

I know Dave personally and I can attest that he is a great guy and stands behind everything he sells(even if it's not his products)....

I'm not trying to cause more drama to the story, but I just hope this will be cleared up somehow.

turbo Si

Man I didn't know stuff like that happened on here. I just bought 8 injectors from Tom (camp1320) and he seemed very nice and helpful, although we are still fixing the order. I don't think anyone can beat his price's on Seimen Deka's. Anyway's I hope someone can shed some light on this!

turbo Si

I spoke with Tom and it seems like it's all politics..........maybe everyones just want's a piece if the $$$$$?

202B

definitely a good guy...
delt with him before

twkdCD595

I got my IC from tom and he is all cool I thought... sounds like to much competition and someone got their toes stepped on.

Given this is a 3rd party view and I have no clue what went on.

turbo Si

Maybe he had better prices than some vendors who do pay Honda-Tech for advertisments and they decided to bann him. I really think that was the case. To be honest with you, when ever I need a part I either post a thread to ask, or do a search. I have never really clicked on any of the advertisements unless it was by accident! I found Tom by doing a search for injectors and got my Seimen deka's for $250.00. Now tell me anyone else that can beat that?

UberTeg

some mod needs to say whats up cuz this is gay. I wont be buying anythign form any of honda-tech's sponsers in the mean time

yellowsub

Yea this is very dissapointing. I enjoyed both tom's and dave's presence on here. But for sure tom will be on http://www.ef-1.com. Honda Tech gets two this week.

Joseph Davis

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by UberTeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">some mod needs to say whats up cuz this is gay. I wont be buying anythign form any of honda-tech's sponsers in the mean time </TD></TR></TABLE>

Which ones would you fraternize?

I know of two that are currently being lax and incommunicative about orders... one since March 26th + still no tracking number.

TheShocker

ttt

ion_four

Is anyone going to "expose" the mod that did this? I don't really know the story behind this, but I remember a couple months back when a bunch of threads were being locked because a mod was being criticized about selling practices (but, I could be mistaken). I suppose that someone (dustin?) does "0wnZ" this board, but it's a community and banning people and locking threads that aren't overtly negative is not cool in my book.

BTW, this thread should be moved and we should stop posting until it is

Arturbo

The thread wasnt deleted. It was moved to the moderators corner and we are looking into it. I am hearing both sides of the story to clear things up. So far, one party has provided me with credit card info and paypal transactions.

For the record, I did ban superTT, but not supert. The moderators have found Dave to be using different names, but I am sure there is a reason and he can explain it.

Tom, I found was banned by tony by not following the rules of the best buy forum after being warned several times.

art