Well Im trying to decide if I should go d series or stay b series the reason why I would go D series is because I know once I buy my turbo setup for my b18c im really not gonna have any traction because I dont have any traction right now in my crx with the gsr. So I figured if I went with somethng like a d16a6 and sleeved and did all the stuff to it I wouldnt have as much problems getting grip once I turbo'ed the 1.6l and I already know its very possble to make plenty of power with a turbo d16a6. Plus I could sell m gsr and pretty much have the mony to buy the whole project. So tell me what you think would be best

P.S. I want traction thx

 

If you have never done a turbo setup before I would go with the d-series since you are probably going to break stuff. Besides, with the money you get from the gsr motor you could buy a d-series and still have a couple grand to spend on a turbo kit....although you could always swap in a b16 so there isnt as much low end torque.

 

What whp are you looking for?

 

D-Series
Just like someone else said with the amount of money you could get from the B you'll easily get a D and have a couple g's to play with.

 

d series powa!

go d series non-vtec, the under dog of under dogs.

 

Did you just polish that valve cover or is it a different finish? I can't tell in the pic. It looks nice.

 

bad reason to go with a crappier motor...learn to drive

 

D series would be a lot cheaper, but you would still have traction issues. I run 5psi and my tires break loose around 5.5k rpms. B series will give you better top end power. Those are just some pros and cons I can think of.

 

It's a crappier motor in your opinion.

 

I'm diggin the D series

 

Lets see....your going to sell your gsr motor for a d-series then turbo that because you already have traction issues with the b18c
A: Learn to drive
B: once you turbo the d16 you'll have the same amount of power as you did with the b18
You make no sense to me, selling *"IMO"* a far superior engine for a weaker engine only to turbo it to get you rite back where you are rite now. The only thing you will gain is some torque.
So now you have a weaker engine pushed to it's limits making the same power your making now.
If you really want to go turbo and cant afford it then you (actually shouldn't be going f/i if you cant afford it)can sell the engine to get money for the d16 turbo project but imo your going backwards.
I could tell you that my b16 is making to much power and i cant get traction in 1st or second but that would be a lie...
SO what are you doing that is making it so hard for you to get traction? I'm really curious to hear why you cant get traction with your set-up

 

If you don't want the GSR anymore, I'll trade you for my 2000 D16Y8 (everything) with a complete T3 set up for your complete GSR motor, tranny, ecu, axels, harness, etc. I'm in NJ, so we can easily hook up and trade.

 

trade with that guy since u obviously dont appreciate ur motor.

 

Yeah, lets trade. Try something new.

 

With a good setup the d-series will easily make more HP than a STOCK b-series. I think the real reason should be budget....the only reason to switch to a d-series in my opinion is money. If you have ever had a turbo honda before you know that **** WILL break if you dont know what you are doing. For a first time turbo setup, I think the d-series is a better option because if you crack a sleeve on a b-series, your out some serious cash, crack a sleeve on the d-series and your out $50 for a block that most people would consider garbage. I want to get a stock d motor and just boost the hell out of it, just to see how much power you can make before the motor craps out....

 

But your engine may be to powerfull, can you get traction?

 

To be honest, I had to drop about $1,000 into my suspension to get good traction. Wheel hop is a bitch.

 

I went with a d-series engine for my Gf's car for three reasons:

1. Cost. It was approx. 2500.00 cheaper than go with a b-series swap.

2. Parts. I have d-series parts dime a dozen.

3. Something different. I have always done b-series and wanted to try something different. I keep hearing that d-series cant make good power, but I cannot wait to prove that wrong. I have some tricks up my sleeve for her engine including honda factory itb's/sheet metal intake manifold set-up that will surely give results. My goal with her engine is 300whp on pump, I will easily accomplish this before 14lbs.

 

I heard someone say that itb's is better for N/A than forced induction...is there any truth to that?

 

Perfect example of why I want you to tune my car!!!!!

 

Screw This im staying B ill just go to the track as much as possible this summer and figure out how to drive this trust me I just asked for an opinion I didnt ask to be flamed and treated like an *** and told tha I dont care about my car and my motor. Also I dont like being treated like an *** seeing that im one of the nicest people that a person could meet. To the people who actally gave me an opinion that I really wanted to read . To the people who love to give ******** opinions and strike down someones self esteam

 

The reason that itb's are not commonly used with forced induction is mainly cost. I have figured out a way to make itb's work, that doesnt cost very much. Also, the itb's that I am using are OEM honda and retain factory the tps and injector clips. R34 skyline, Sunny GTi-R among others that used itb's with forced induction from the factory. I estimate a 30-40whp increase using the itb's in the configuration that I am going to use them. No one knows how itb's will preform on honda's since its never been done and reveal the public (hint race teams). Time will tell...

 

ur using CBR tbs? thats cool

 

I really wanted to trade! If you want traction, try upgrading your suspension and putting in some polyurethane motor mounts.

 

yea, i've seen pictures of itb's on a honda but never any numbers.....be sure to post up the sheet when you get done