me 2 been selling haltech units for the longest time with VW stuff

 

Alot of the problems have been out of porche rally cars and dune buggy sand rail cars. I think they take alot more abuse in both these type of cars...but still.

 

HoleShot...I've always dyno'd with a wide band but I run open looped. Why do u say not to use it on the dyno? What do you use?

 

What he is talking about is the o2 that you get with the speed pro. It isnt exceptable for tuneing purposes. Not the seperate wide band o2

 

I'm using Link engine management, and they can do everything a hondata 4b can do plus more. No need to keep on burning roms like with a hondata, this thing stores it in its own memory. Full throttle shift, ALS/Launch Control, etc.. Tuning can be done with a Link keypad or a laptop, and has served me very well. Price is also cheaper than hondata. Click on the link in my signature for more info. Link products are made in New Zealand.

 

yeah...but the hondata uses the factory ecu which everyone likes. I know most of you may not care about this too, but some of us boost over 30 pounds so these systems like hondata and link will not work.

 

Mike, you are right. I doubt I will ever see 30psi in my car so that is why I chose hondata.
My take on the stand alone is get what suits you best and your tunning style. I got hondata because Im not a tuning expert and hondata is just a gateway for beginers. I think all the stand alones work, but the question you need to ask is "what works for you?".

art

 

link ECUs are plug'n'play, and fit inside the casing of your stock ECU box. You open it up, remove your stock ECU board, and put in the Link ECU board. You can even tell people you have a stock ECU, they won't know (unless they open it up)..

 

I am using the new DFI 7, only have base maps and it runs nice, still needs to be tuned but never hsd a problem. My previous ride had the DFI 6, never had a problem either.

 

Has not had a problem with haltech yet.

 

your O2 point, you can also tune off of MAP/load, and watch O2 as reference!
Autronic great, hard to find, Motec $$$ I am not Ferarri, DTA from UK is a newer system on our market and Canada's fastest import has switched to it and loving it.

I still use my Accel DFI and love the monochrome tuning, it like being in the 80's again.

 

does anyone know which of the units mentioned above support A/C cause hondata has a claim that they are one of the only systems that support A/C

also is there a system that you can have two setups stored (race/street) and flip a switch or something that simple to switch maps

 

dfi is ****. Every honda started a dfi back in the day because thats what was on the market that worked. then people switched to speed pro now people are switching to more advanced systems like motec etc. Its just learning curve. Like ART said choose the best ECU combo for your setup. Dont go choose something that you never gonna use.

 

i am guessing that since it stores it in its own memory , that u can switch back and forth by using the handheld or laptop.

 

The Link Plus has this. http://www.carmodifications.com/Link...k-linkplus.htm

 

Viren you hurt my feelings with that line, I do this for a hobby and dropped large to get the DFI, speedpro just wasnt in the bank account.......................now take it back and say DFI is good!! my car runs mint, street integra that does 10's on DFI - no vtec no NOS, no budget!

 

Is the PMS unit any good ?

 

iYou guys dont understand the texas lingo...

DFI being the **** means its awesome. ..... we talk different down here

 

Thanks all cleared up, Viren has informed me of all the new lingo I have missed out while in jail for the criminally insane, Viren you are the ****! (did I use it in the right context??) Hey and if I had to embellish upon "the ****" could I use f**king ****????? or is that not fresh (is fresh still a word or have I been asleep too long??)
heheheh

 

DFI can be runned with AC. RPM NYC has a car with dfi and with the AC working. There is a trick in to getting the AC to work with DFI.

 

I really appreciate everyones help and ideas on this thread. I am still somewhat up in the air of which stand alone to go with. I want to keep my car on the level of a daily driver, but i want a stand alone that will support 15-18psi daily and 20+ on the dyno/track. Basically, all units work perfect, i just have to find the perfect one for my set up, as someone stated earlier. If it helps, i have a resleeved darton block- oringed, 20 over je pist, crow rods, complete gude cyl head package, t04e ball bearing, and ill be running 720cc inj, holley in tank/in line fuel pumps (still researching which ones to get, any help would be appreciated on this also), and a few other goodies.

I am doing a great amount of research right now on all the units everyone mentioned to me. The autronic ecu that i was told about sounds very nice, and the owner of G&S emailed me a very nice helpful email about the unit. The shop i will have tune my car is in atlanta, ga called engineering performance, the guy there told me about the PMS system being one of their top choices. Whoever referred me to R&D in charleston, well i know the guys that own that shop and im not ******* them, but i have reasons why i wouldnt let them touch my car. I would really like to run the AEM, but i am afraid that it might be a little too early to run this ecu since it is so fresh on the market. But as time passes, more and more people are running them and starting to figure them out, i think this unit is gonna just plain rock *** in the near future, i just dont know if i have the patience to put up for it. But patience is a virtue, and good things come to those who wait. It sucks that haltech is getting the rep of being faulty, does anyone know the exact price of the motec m4? I want a system that i can incorperate a wide band with. Oh boy, so much to type and so little space. Viren, email me some prices for some of the units you told me about. Thanks guys, you rock.

 

 

Please refer to Honda Tuning Magazine which is on line. Their article about our EMS system is complete and discusses the pros and cons of stand alone theory. We are totally dedicated to our system and will work with you to make sure our product does what we profess it to do. When you purchase the computer you will be given an 800 number that you can call and troubleshoot any problem that you might encounter. A qualified tuner is necessary as this is not for the tinkerer. If you need referrals we can help.

 

Thank you for your response and the link on honda tuning, it cleared up a lot of my questions. PNEUWIRTH, i tried emailing you at pneuwirth@aempower.com, and the mail was sent back to me. Could you please email TurboPreludeSi@aol.com so i could speak to you in private? Thank you- anthony


[Modified by GudeH23a, 1:01 AM 4/30/2002]

 

The AEM EMS adjusts the Idle when the A/C is activated and it allows a user selectable load to deactivate the A/C (for racing when it's hot out) and allows for seperate condensor fan control.

Most any stand alone allows an unlimited number of maps to be stored on your laptop.