stangkilla

i have a 1995 honda civic dx it had a 1.5 liter in it and i blew it up now i am putting a 1.6 liter sohc vtec motor in it. i was wondering what would be the best turbo for the motor and how much boost will i be able to put out

ForcedAccord

Do a search for the love of God.

VTC_CiViC

LOL!!

maxim

Boost is what you should be concerned with rather than what kind of turbo. The only difference in turbos that you should be concerned with is size - smaller turbos have faster spool up time, larger turbos will have slower spool up but will be better top end. As far as boost, don't look at going any more than 10psi on stock internals.

Smashback

T3/4 custom setup all the way baby. STAGE 3 is the only wheel for me

Kamin

first, i dont want to tell you this is stupid because its your car and this is just my opinion.
its a SOHC engine, you can only squeeze so much out of one of those. for the money your gonna spend on a turbo (3k+) you can drop in a GSR motor and recieve comprable times.
like i said its your car but since your DX motor is already blown
why not step it up a little more and get a bigger/better engine
just my .02

jinxproof99

well said. buy a dohc motor 1st and then turbo later. if you buy the turbo now, you'll be screwed later.

JJ-Built

hey karl i just bought a twin cam but now i need a trans got one?

Smashback

Maybe because unless he wants to spend ALOT more money on a B18 then the B16 is only what ... 30 HP more than the D16?

Damn, you swap guys must be rolling in money.

Honda Civic - 10,000 (give or take for whatever year you want or whenever you bought your car)
Engine Swap - 3,500
Turbo - 3,000
Turbo parts - 1,000
Stand alone - 1,100
Rims/tires ...
Suspension..

Really starts to add up..

Jesus .. and I really doubt that a stock GSR motor is going to give comparable times. I'm shooting for over 200 HP with my turbo SOHC and it will have cost me less than a GSR swap. What's a stock GSR... 140 at the wheels? How much does it cost to get that motor to put out the same power WITHOUT turbo as a turbo SOHC?

Everytime somebody talks about SOHC everybody says swap first then turbo. Be realistic.


[Modified by mplex2000, 2:56 AM 12/14/2001]

Kamin

ex. friend has a hatch with a gsr. runs 14.7's.
3k for swap.
for 1000$ he can build motor a little (pistons, cams) and get it to flat 14's.
thats your cost for a turbo.
and a sohc turbo running 8lb of boost will be lucky to break into 13.
edit: a little above 150 at the wheels if im not mistaken


[Modified by KAMiN, 4:06 AM 12/14/2001]

AshlandSi

Hey bro, come to the board in my sig. Too many SOHC haters here.

5thgen

$4000 total

Greddy kit/intercooler/bov=2213.00
Pistons/rods=800-1000
Gauges=100-300+
Fuel system=200-500
3313-4013 is total for a d16 kit with a stronger bottom end and some gauges and a decent fuel system. You'll still have 500+ to mess with. I know the greddy isn't as effecient when you boost up around 15-18psi, but 10psi should break 13s. And you probably won't need a stand-alone for 10psi. If you want to go faster...sure the gsr is a "more potential" platform to start from, it just costs a little more to go turbo too.

Smashback

Exactly. The thing is, somebody wants a fast turbo car, and everyone says swap now turbo later. You're talking over twice the price of a good turbo setup for the SOHC you already have.

Maybe Kamin is looking at too many stock Greddy SOHC cars, but my little SOHC w/turbo should smoke any GSR non-turbo swap, and for less money.

If anybody has a GSR swap AND turbo, then damn they are richer than me and deserve to win by 1 second or less.


[Modified by mplex2000, 7:51 AM 12/14/2001]


[Modified by mplex2000, 7:51 AM 12/14/2001]

ric3 daddie

SOHC= cheap , just a little slower on the topend.
in my opinion i agree with 5th gen fo with the greddy kit i have it in a cx hb with the d16z6 motor and i ran 13.552@100.95 on a 2.195 60 foot et on street tires.
man my hatch and everything sooooooo cheap. i love sohc so cheap if it blows up its only a coupple bills to fix and gsr= alot to get a new block if it blows.
payce bro
go with sohc vtec greddy turbo kit.

EDIT: By the way this was at only 8 psi on a 85 degree day with only the passenger seat removed!


[Modified by ric3 daddie, 4:16 AM 12/15/2001]

VTC_CiViC

Heres's my personal experiences..

SOHC Turbo whuch cost me (including the kit, intercooler, fuel and electronics) $2500
Stock cat, stock exahust I ran a 14.41 @10psi with a 2.3 60' time. Decent 2.1 60's times will net me 14.0 no problem since I have the power (consistent 99mph traps)

Cars I've beaten:
5G VX hatch w/ JDM B16A (170ps) + bolt-ons
6G DX hatch w/B16A2 + bolt-ons
6G DX hatch w/B18C1 + bolt-ons *very close win*
6G EX coupe w/B18C1 + bolt-ons
3G Si hatch w/ZC + bolt-ons
4G Prelude VTEC w/JDM H22A + crower stg 2 cams/valvetrain + bolt-ons

The "limit" on these motors is far less than the limit of a build B18 absolutley, but since I'm not worried with running 10's right now, I think my D16 turbo is more than holding it's own, for all of $2500..

brcivic411

i have a the greddy kit on mine. with just the kit on with a stock engine, stock exhaust, stock fuel, no IC.. i got 140wtq and 150whp. the reason the hp was so low was cause i was running REAL lean above 5Krpm.

i got the kit used with BOV for $1100 (plus boost & a/f gauge & turbo timer)
i spent around $1000 more on larger injectors, a VAFC, and a better fuel pump.

That's pretty good bang for the buck

IM ALL BOB

in response for all hybriders...try to take on a H22 EG hb.. or H22 EK hb.. easy 13's without anything but the motor =x hey who cares about turning anyways..
but if u strapped for cash .. a sohc turbo isn't all that bad

TurboSedan

Word, SOHC tubo is better than no turbo at all!!!!

maxim

Sorry, but those are horrible numbers. Somebody else put up some figures that are at the VERY LEAST encouraging. I just ordered a Drag Kit from Ben and hope do be getting a lot better results. Brcivic411, I do not mean to flame you in any way, but I hope to get more for my money than 10-20 hp gain.

JJ-Built

hey i got a decent number for you...
what about 12.52 @112 on a 2000 cx with slicks of course!
i love sohc but everyone that i know keeps saying throw the sohc and get with dohc! what should i do???

jinxproof99

whats up man?? you know what to do with that sohc...hahaha you guys pulled some decent #'s with those dinosaur motors, but i know where your headed. you guys will be running 11's next year.........with b series motors.

D-Man

Fucc a B series,you can keep it cause without Wheelie Bars,a D series will run with a B,anyday,maybe with your lack of knowledge,you would build a slow D series,but in the hands of the right person,they run very quick,such as Jason Whitfield with his CRX,without wheelie bars,it ran 10.23@141!!! try beating that with your almighty B,,dont believe me..here's some proof
http://www.sema.org/semanews/december99/coverstory.html

TurboSedan

D-Man, I think I love you.

Variance-EJ-6

ahhhhh I cannot be a hyprocrite, I got a B18 With NOS, and a D18 W/ Boost...

Im using a GreddyTDO4H, I bored the Greddy Housing out, and I bored the D15 head to 2.0 and resleeved back to 1.8 (WALLS WERE VERY THIN), Now Im runnin a 1.8SOHC non-VTEC Turbo under 13 lbs Of Boost......

I got round 220, 230 to the wheels easy.....and this is just the beginning, I not ******* on SOHCs cause I own one, but I like em, there is just only so much you can do with 1 cam runnin the intake and the exhaust.......

Later alll.....

TurboSedan

True, but there is only so much one can do with any motor. You cannot say that every DOHC has more potential than any SOHC. Take for example a DOHC that has been beaten on and the compression numbers are low. That motor will not be able to take even the abuse a good conditioned SOHC can take.

My point is, every motor has a unique limit. SOHC or DOHC.