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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 10:20 AM
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Ok, i bought my new car 3 weeks ago... its a gsr motor/ drag genIII kit.. vtec wasnt hooked up, its not tuned, running fmu stock p28 etc.... the kid says he never went over like 4k rpm, car didnt smoke when i checked it out besides normal little smoke like running little rich when driving... i babied the car driving it home then to a friends house.. i let the car cool and turn off, come back outside bout 5min later to move the car, let it sit there and all the sudden i see all this smoke comin out the exhaust... i call him and hes like "i dont know never did that before.." i drove the car home and stopped smokin as bad, just more normal now... the next day i check the oil and it was more than quart and half low... wtf.. so i fill it up... i hardly drive the car bc i been working so much no time to do anything yet.. throught the 3 weeks the car would smoke everyday usualy like that for some reason, and its only really on idle.. the idle is perfect, but that smoke, and it smells like oil. now if i almost hit boost or hit it for a second, hear like a choppy sound. some people tell me its normal, others say detonation?? anyway i dont want to get the car tuned if i have a bad turbo seal, so any ideas on what is wrong i really appreciate it thanks



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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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anyone?
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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get it to a shop, or a tuner and have them check it out, do a compression check and run some good fuel management, atleast get uberdata or something, btw any more pics of the car,
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 12:11 PM
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i will be getting it tuned as soon as my injectors come in.. but not much they can do if its a bad turbo seal or something.. i need to fix it first.. any sugg. on what it may be?
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 12:13 PM
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Default Re: Smoking ??? (klubhed1)

check your charge pipes/intercooler for oil, check your downpipe for oil

do a compression/leakdown test.....

come back after doin those
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 12:56 PM
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pull the charge pipe off right where it comes out of the turbo and check for oil, next take off the d/p and check there, that will tell you whats up with the turbo , then pull the turbo manifold off the head and see if there is any oil in the exhaust ports, if so then pull the plugs and do a leak down test , if the plugs look ok and leak down is good then i would say valve seals,
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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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sounds like the seller fucked you over.

did u check the rad hose when u went to buy it? was it warm?

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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 04:49 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C1CYA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">pull the charge pipe off right where it comes out of the turbo and check for oil, next take off the d/p and check there, that will tell you whats up with the turbo , then pull the turbo manifold off the head and see if there is any oil in the exhaust ports, if so then pull the plugs and do a leak down test , if the plugs look ok and leak down is good then i would say valve seals, </TD></TR></TABLE>



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Old Aug 18, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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Default Re: Smoking ??? (klubhed1)

Take the car to the whipfactory in naperville, Dave will take care of ya for anything that you need done including tuning.
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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hey klubhed1, can you <U>please</U> e-mail me @ jezekracing@yahoo.net....your e-mail in your user info isn't working. THANKS&gt;
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 06:01 PM
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check for smoke out of your pcv on your valve cover. good sign of bad rings. And make sure you're not leaking oil around the head gasket. hope that helps.
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 07:12 PM
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there is hardly any miles on the motor
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 07:21 PM
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Default Re: Smoking ??? (klubhed1)

When a car has a really goofy tuenup in it...sometimes it will smoke really white and as soon as you tune it, it stops smoking...
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Old Aug 19, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jezek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey klubhed1, can you <U>please</U> e-mail me @ jezekracing@yahoo.net....your e-mail in your user info isn't working. THANKS&gt;</TD></TR></TABLE> which do you have to trade.. pm me
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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Update: i took the ic pipes off looked inside and checked the turbo out... no oil in the pipes, no shaft play side to side or in ad out.. so i should be all good that way... but now i still dont know what the problem is.. valve guide maybe? i have yet to have any time to look more.. im at work too much
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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Update: compression check: about 170 across the board...
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by klubhed1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Update: compression check: about 170 across the board... </TD></TR></TABLE>

did you do the test right? Meaning was the car at normal operating temp and at WOT?

Its good they are all the same put isnt 170 a drop low for a GSR, I would have thought 200-220. I get 200-215 on my B16 with 9:1 C/R
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 08:56 PM
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i took out one plug at a time and screwd in the gauge... then cranked the motor few times went to about 170-175 each one...

motor:
b18c1
3 angle valve job p/p
srp 9.2-1 pistons
eagle H beam rods
JE rings
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 09:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by klubhed1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i took out one plug at a time and screwd in the gauge... then cranked the motor few times went to about 170-175 each one...

motor:
b18c1
3 angle valve job p/p
srp 9.2-1 pistons
eagle H beam rods
JE rings</TD></TR></TABLE>

youre also suppose to have the throttle wide open while cranking.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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ahhh.. not sure if my dad did that, il have to ask him tomorow when i wake up... car has to be warm also? what should the comp. be on this motor.
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 09:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by klubhed1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ahhh.. not sure if my dad did that, il have to ask him tomorow when i wake up... car has to be warm also? what should the comp. be on this motor. </TD></TR></TABLE>

yup needs to be warm. 200-220 sounds good...
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Old Aug 21, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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Everyone covered everything i woulda said....check for oil in icpiping and dp, also run leakdown test and compression test, ect...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by klubhed1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> which do you have to trade.. pm me</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'll vouch for Jezek if he needs one
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 04:59 AM
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did you check for oil in your downpipe?

to do a compression check :

have warmed up engine
remove all spark plugs
remove ecu fuse from panel in engine bay
WOT crank 5-7 times or untill it doesnt raise compression anymore

if your compression is low in one or more cylinders, add a half cap of oil into the cylinder(s) and redo compression check on that cylinder, if it raises up higher then before then you know its your rings, if not its your valves

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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 06:27 AM
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Stop driving it go get compression test.
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Old Aug 22, 2005 | 08:27 AM
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I have turbo on my car and lot of my friend do too...we all have this problem once in a while. Main things to check is to see if you oil return line is a free flow to oil pan. add a oil restrictor to the oil feed line , you turbo is getting to much oil, it only needs a little bit..hope it helps
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