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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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What sleeves are these I cant figure it outl i tought they were aebs. but someone told me darton. and another told me jg.. i'm lost.
just bought it today


block has good parts. like crower rods and endyn roller wave pistons...
got for 750 bucks. nothing is wrong with it. only thing bad is oil pump. but the tuner caught it right away. told the guy he would repair it for 700 bucks. vtec wasnt kicking in due to low oil pressure. so i think i got a hell of a deal.. tuner told me that it was a steal. rods alone are 700. pistons are even more
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 09:30 PM
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only had 1500 miles since built. you can tell by how clean the pistons look
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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ummm....the pistons are always supposed to look that clean...unless your running way to rich then its covered in carbon...so no you cant tell how old a block looks by how clean the pistons are...

looks like a darton closed deck to me.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 09:52 PM
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what motor is this?
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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gsr
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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Does it have a deck plate?
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:24 PM
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definatly darton closed deck sleeves
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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nope
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:40 PM
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I thought that Darton closed deck sleeves looked like this:




And those pistons don't look like roller waves, there is no trough between the valve reliefs and the edges of the valve reliefs are way too sharp. Endyn smoothes all sharp edges on their pistons.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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I just noticed the lines through the dirt, that's stock sleeves with a block guard. Not sure about the pistons, but some older forged low=CR units, most of the newer ones don't make that valve relief edge so razor-thin any more because it makes hot spots.
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Old Apr 29, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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And let's see some pics of those rods.
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 12:28 AM
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I don't think thats a block gaurd but if it is its a super tight fit. Most gaurds you can still see the line around it but that one almost looks as one. Maybe they welded the gaurd in and decked the block cause its not dartons.
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 02:44 AM
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.... too bad those are CP pistons....
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 03:13 AM
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those looks like the jg pro series sleeves.
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 03:14 AM
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dart block or an erl superdeck II
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 06:57 AM
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those are definitely not endyn pistons.

and that is definitely not a dart block.

if i had to take a guess, that's a blockgaurd welded into a stock block.
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 07:13 AM
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I totaly agree with justin jones those are stock sleeves
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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as for the week oil pressure you better hope to god those bearings are in good shape, if not you got ripped off!
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 07:53 AM
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those really do look like stock sleeves... as far as the deck goes, i've never seen a block guard fit that tight. Something seems off about this.

rip it apart and post up some pix
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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on second thought, it does look a lot like a blockguard that was welded in. You can definetly even see the line....


Modified by PA MATT at 12:42 PM 4/30/2007


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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 08:28 AM
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First thing i thought was stock block with a block gaurd, do block gaurds usually fit that tight. Pistons also look like arias
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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 09:35 AM
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can you show bigger picture???
I know for sure that is not AEBS.////// sorry bout that lol\


aebs have different coolant wholes...


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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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Looks liek AEBS sleeve...

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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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AEBS sleeves look like this (friend of mine's block that I helped him with):



Here's a pic (sorry for the crappiness, all I've got here is cell phone camera) of a stock-sleeve block sitting in my office now:




Here's the OP pic, but I blew it up and traced the faint lines visible in the picture:



You can see that they match up to the outlines of the stock sleeves/jacket, making me think this is a tight-fitting block guard that was welded in and then decked.

If the OP wpild clean up the deck a bit then we'd probably have a better idea of what it is.

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Old Apr 30, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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yea there is just simply not enuff steel there for that to be sleeved
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