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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 08:31 PM
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i have rc 550 now im getting re tuned friday im gonna need bigger but dont know if i should do i resistor box set up what what are the pros and con should i get one or just stay how i am now with out one need help asap please
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 08:40 PM
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im not absolutely positive but i belive the response time of peak and hold are a little faster than saturated. depends on how much power your going after for the size injector.
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 08:45 PM
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i want like 400 to 440 now and maybe more work down the road im at 330 now i think ill be happy with 400-440 just wanna understand this cause as of now i really feel like im in the dark cause i dont undersand all the pros and cons
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Old Oct 3, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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ive done 409whp on a 1.8liter with 750cc injectors with headroom. in all reality though....just go ahead and get some 1000cc injectors....your going to want to keep cranking up the boost.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 06:46 AM
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Injector dynamics Bosch 750cc or 1000cc hands down best injectors on the market and do not require a peak& hold injector driver or resistor box. Wih p&h injectors the correct way to run them is with an injector driver but the resistor box will suffice but when going larger injectors the resistor box doesn't work quite as well.

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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 07:22 AM
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ok so since friday is so soon and i have been looking for like a week trying to save a little cash and get used 1000 or 750 and no luck so i guess ill just have to settle for about 370hp with my 550`s unless someone has a good set of injectors the are willing to let go
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 07:23 AM
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I dont doubt their effectiveness, but this ID injector bandwagon is getting on my nerves. I dont particularly care which brand you buy, but if you're looking for 440whp, you will need to run a set of at least 720cc. If you want a little wiggle room for a higher hp setup, you may as well get some 880ccs now. I figured this assuming that you were running pump gas...not E85
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 07:45 AM
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I dont doubt their effectiveness, but this ID injector bandwagon is getting on my nerves. I dont particularly care which brand you buy, but if you're looking for 440whp, you will need to run a set of at least 720cc. If you want a little wiggle room for a higher hp setup, you may as well get some 880ccs now. I figured this assuming that you were running pump gas...not E85
yes i am running 93 so basically any injector like rc id rdx all the big name`s work just as good
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:21 AM
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It is a bit annoying and I know i post it often but you cant argue with a quality product. I try to make solid recomendations instead of just throwing out there to grab used junk or some half assed way of doing something. No disrespect to you I know there are plenty of other good injectors. I've used plenty just really dig the ID's
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:33 AM
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Injector Dynamics 1000cc injectors and never look back :-)
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:39 AM
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Injector Dynamics 1000cc injectors and never look back :-)
well can you give me a price please
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 11:50 AM
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so just got off the phone with my tunner and i think im gonna run a resistor box just wanted to know if i need a certon one off of a certon car or will and box work
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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Well, since you're going to go with low impedance injectors (and not follow the bandwagon..) you would use either individual ohm resistors or a DSM resistor pack, or one from a 90-93 Accord / DA Integra that still used a resistor pack
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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i only read the first post but i got id 1000's and i love them xenocron and T1 have them and im sure other sites have them
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
Well, since you're going to go with low impedance injectors (and not follow the bandwagon..) you would use either individual ohm resistors or a DSM resistor pack, or one from a 90-93 Accord / DA Integra that still used a resistor pack
well i was told thier is no differance but low impedance are cheaper so i thought might as well save money
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 01:55 PM
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well i was told thier is no differance but low impedance are cheaper so i thought might as well save money
Your motor is an AIR pump, and you need air and fuel to mix together correctly in the engine to make power.

If you cheap out on the Air Pump, you might as well do the same on your Fuel as well...since it plays such a minimal role.

At wide open throttle, generally all of the brands you can find being slung all over the internet will work...but HOW OFTEN do you drive a street car at WOT...maybe 1% of the time?

Wouldnt you prefer to run an injector that works well at every point and works exceptionally well in the areas you most frequently drive your car? Dont you like to have your cake and eat it too?

Injector Dynamics injectors are not a bandwagon, they created a new way of testing, modifying and producing injector sets that work better than anything else out there on the market for aftermarket fuel injectors, and others will continue TRYING to imitate them.

Bandwagons fade...
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 02:03 PM
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ID1000's... I love mine
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 04:11 PM
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Your motor is an AIR pump, and you need air and fuel to mix together correctly in the engine to make power.

If you cheap out on the Air Pump, you might as well do the same on your Fuel as well...since it plays such a minimal role.

At wide open throttle, generally all of the brands you can find being slung all over the internet will work...but HOW OFTEN do you drive a street car at WOT...maybe 1% of the time?

Wouldnt you prefer to run an injector that works well at every point and works exceptionally well in the areas you most frequently drive your car? Dont you like to have your cake and eat it too?

Injector Dynamics injectors are not a bandwagon, they created a new way of testing, modifying and producing injector sets that work better than anything else out there on the market for aftermarket fuel injectors, and others will continue TRYING to imitate them.

Bandwagons fade...

I'm not trying to cheap out on anyting I just think why pay more for the same thing you know it's like I don't fully understand or know that's why i'm asking questions if I did know I wouldn't ask I have rc injectors now been on thier for like 2 years now never have any problem at any point but i'm up to listen and learn I dont know everything that's why I ask questions so I can learn a little
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 04:54 PM
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There's A LOT more to a fuel injector than what it flows and what the resistance of the coil is. Injector Dynamics injectors are not a fad, they have earned a reputation of being the best because they are and tuners and users realize that after using them. Do some research and compare information on your own. Everything you want to know about the ID1000 is here, http://www.injectordynamics.com/ID1000.html

Call the other manufacturers and ask for similar information and compare for yourself. The flow vs. pulsewidth is a big one, that's the 'dyno chart' of the injector. Fuel atomization can not easily be shown or rated, but I can assure you there is not a 1000cc injector on the market with better atomization. Flow deviation on the set across the pulsewidth range is important and has a huge affect on idle quality and how smooth a car drives and how lean you can run it, ID injectors are +/- 1% across the pulsewidth range. Look for flow comparison data across your set a 2 msec pulsewidth and see how close it is, that's where variances in dead times will show up the most.

Sometimes people understand it better when you look at it this way. The other 1000cc injectors on the market are 20+ year old technology, no bullshit. Would you buy a 20 year old cell phone or TV?
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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Thank you Tony and Chris!

I love my ID1000's best investment i ever made. Ive run rc's and precision 1000's and also dsm 450's and rc750's all "worked" but not like the id's Ive even run the rc1000's with a peak & hold injector driver and they still fail in comparison to the id's Technology is great !
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There's A LOT more to a fuel injector than what it flows and what the resistance of the coil is. Injector Dynamics injectors are not a fad, they have earned a reputation of being the best because they are and tuners and users realize that after using them. Do some research and compare information on your own. Everything you want to know about the ID1000 is here, http://www.injectordynamics.com/ID1000.html

Call the other manufacturers and ask for similar information and compare for yourself. The flow vs. pulsewidth is a big one, that's the 'dyno chart' of the injector. Fuel atomization can not easily be shown or rated, but I can assure you there is not a 1000cc injector on the market with better atomization. Flow deviation on the set across the pulsewidth range is important and has a huge affect on idle quality and how smooth a car drives and how lean you can run it, ID injectors are +/- 1% across the pulsewidth range. Look for flow comparison data across your set a 2 msec pulsewidth and see how close it is, that's where variances in dead times will show up the most.

Sometimes people understand it better when you look at it this way. The other 1000cc injectors on the market are 20+ year old technology, no bullshit. Would you buy a 20 year old cell phone or TV?
ok thats fine can you get me a set 1000`s to my door by thursday
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 06:20 PM
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Can have them to you by wed. if you need them that quick.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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Can have them to you by wed. if you need them that quick.
lol i do need them that quick so bosch are the same thing as id but a little cheaper right
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Bosch is the manufacturer. These injectors are modified, so the quality of the modifications and the matching process will determine the overall quality of the injector set. You need to look at who's doing the modifications, how well they're truly matched, and what information you're getting with them to compare. Bosch does not make a 1000cc injector, in this price range anyways. Bosch Motorsports has some but they're very expensive.
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Old Oct 4, 2010 | 06:58 PM
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so ow much for 1000`s shipped to my door step ready to put in my car obd1 94 eg with a ls/vtec b16 head
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