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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 11:43 PM
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Default Ringlands -- All four broken (Pics)

I finally was able to get around to disassembling my old short block to confirm what I had initially thought happened. The ring lands pretty much broke in the same exact spot on all 4 pistons. Lesson here is don't get carried away with your boost controller.

Notice the clean spot right under the top ring. The transition from clean to dirty is where the crack starts and ends.





The walls in each cylinder are scuffed up pretty good.






Modified by iiilgsrlll at 12:54 AM 9/19/2004
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 12:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iiilgsrlll &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Lesson here is don't get carried away with your boost controller.
ffed up pretty good.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Lol, yeah... boost is addictive.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 01:52 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GrayT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

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yer moms addictive
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:04 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hodemonstar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yer moms addictive </TD></TR></TABLE>
Real mature. . .
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 07:10 AM
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ouch, sucks.

wish i was addicted to boost...
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:24 AM
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What boost were you at? -=P
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hodemonstar &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


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wtf?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:29 AM
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boost owns u
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 11:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by synik &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What boost were you at? -=P </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL..that's a good question. The boost controller read 9.x but from what we saw on the dyno there's about a 1.5psi difference between actual and displayed psi. I'd say the boost spike was somewhere in the neighborhood of 11 psi. Another thing i learned: get a mechanical boost gauge. Do not trust the reading your boost controller displays. In my case it was a Blitz SBC-iD and it was nowhere close to actual boost.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BG Boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">boost owns u </TD></TR></TABLE>

You can say that again.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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just hone that shiat!
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 04:15 PM
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What was your static compression ratio?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by danl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What was your static compression ratio?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That was my stock GSR bottom end...10:1.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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What did you have for engine management?
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:38 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HXMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What did you have for engine management?</TD></TR></TABLE>

At that time I was running the Greddy Blue Box with the stock ECU. Yeah I know...I probably deserved it.
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 10:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iiilgsrlll &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">At that time I was running the Greddy Blue Box with the stock ECU. Yeah I know...I probably deserved it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol I like this guy

Sorry to hear about the rings man, but I bet it was fun while it lasted . Im glad ya have a good attitude on things
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 10:33 PM
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the greddy blue box takes another victim, don't feel bad, I was in your shoes last year. Get Benson sleeves and build her up again with Hondata and boost away
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 12:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FredoSP &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the greddy blue box takes another victim, don't feel bad, I was in your shoes last year. Get Benson sleeves and build her up again with Hondata and boost away </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's exactly where I'm at right now. Block built by Earl and sleeved by Benson's. Now I'm just fighting the AEM EMS demons.

I remember reading about your experience with the Blue Box. How's your new motor running?

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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 12:16 AM
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how much boost were you running on the box?
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 12:22 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94dxt &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much boost were you running on the box?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Anywhere from 7.8 psi to whatever boost spiked to. I'm guessing it spiked upwards of 11psi when the ringlands crapped out. I was TRYING to boost 9 psi when that happened.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:14 AM
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car is great! SC61 likes me, lol
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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To the orginal poster that sucks. Hope you are back up and running soon. What problems are you having with your aem?
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:31 AM
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wow, all 4 ringlands.... What is your pcv setup???
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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To the orginal poster that sucks. Hope you are back up and running soon. What problems are you having with your aem?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Back up and running already but not to the point of where I would like it to be. I was running with the broken ringlands for almost 10 months. I finally got sick of adding oil every other week and decided to swap it out.

I'm having little quirky issues with the AEM. Idles funny, misfires in top end, and the most annoying issue of all is stalling and warm starts. I'll give it about a month to work out these issues then I'm going with Hondata.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toolowsol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">wow, all 4 ringlands.... What is your pcv setup???</TD></TR></TABLE>

PCV setup is/was stock. Once I get the EMS issues taken care of I will be bypassing the PCV into my catch can.
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Old Sep 20, 2004 | 11:39 AM
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My stock B16A2 saw 14psi a few times last winter (wastegate problems)

It's still running strong tho.
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