Nextelbuddy

just wanted to know when i put my new eagle rods in can i reuse my ROD BEARINGS from my stock rods? they only have 40,000 miles on them really low and i dont seem to have any problems with them right now.

what do you guys reccomend. anyone in here that has done the same thing and had a good experience?

liam821

simple answer is no no and never no no really big no. The real reason is the old bearings are made for the rod journal and crank journal size, and im sure they are worn from use. You need to have new bearings sized.

liam

Nextelbuddy

ah man dont tell me i am going to have to take my damn crank to a machine shop and have them plastiguage it and then go to acura and get the correct color bearings. is that what i have to do?

if so can some one tell me exactly what steps i have to do to get the correct bearings.

Nextelbuddy

since my motor has such low miles 40,000 couldnt i just go ot acura and get all GREEN bearings? or could i actualyl take my crank to acura and would they be able to look at the crank and tell me what bearings i need? or can only a machine shop tell me?

PM-Performance

you can do it , but iwouldnt reccomned it to save a few $$$. not worth it. if you got the motor open, just take car of it noe rasther than having to rip it apart later.
just have whomever is building the motor spec the crank and get the parts frm honda.

30psi Teg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nextelbuddy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">since my motor has such low miles 40,000 couldnt i just go ot acura and get all GREEN bearings? or could i actualyl take my crank to acura and would they be able to look at the crank and tell me what bearings i need? or can only a machine shop tell me?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You need both the block and crank to tell what bearings you need and yes just go to Honda they can tell you. If you have a factory service manual you can actually figure it out yourself though.

I always plastigauge to make sure everything is good.

Nextelbuddy

well i just called a buddy of mine at honda this is what he said

" you wont know anythign untill you take the block apart, but when you do examine the bearings, as long as as you dont have any scarring on the bearings you can reuse them with low miles, a lot of peopel change them out anyways for extra insurance"

sounds a lot like what u guys just said.

rextec

they probably wont fit since eagle rods are all sized to hondas size 3 (i forget the color)

Nextelbuddy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rextec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they probably wont fit since eagle rods are all sized to hondas size 3 (i forget the color)</TD></TR></TABLE>

huh? can anyone confirm this?

BodyKits NW

Yah, Eagles are machined for a size 3. Get some ACL Rod Bearings and call it a day. 50.00 bux for ACL Rod Bearings and just plasticgauge them. Piece of cake.

earl

You have to measure..no guessing allowed..do it right

Nextelbuddy

so the best thing for me to do would be:

tear my block down and take my block, crank, and old bearings to a machine shop have them measure everything to determine what bearings i need then go to honda and get those exact bearings? would honda OEM bearings work with eagle rods? do i have to use ACL?

or instead of taking everything to the machine shop couldnt i just take everything to HONDA and hav them look at everything and tell me wha bearings i need? is honda capable even capable of that? or is it only a machine shop capable of that?

Nextelbuddy

i just want to make sure what i do is prefect because i would hate to have to tear anything down all because of that. i just want to get the right information thats all

Dinuguan

Shawn, getting the codes for the bearings isn't that bad and you wouldn't really need to take anything to a machine shop or Honda to let them know what you need.

You have to get through this:

this:

and this:

in order to see the codes on the crank like this:



Here are the color codes for the mains:
(Edit: Pic of bearing codes)



Modified by Dinuguan at 4:23 PM 1/8/2004

Nextelbuddy

ho ok. so in that very last picture. i can clearly see D and 3

that means according to your little table that a BLACK bearing wouldbe required for the main bearings for that one?

dfoxengr

definately not. spun one of my friends doin that.

Nextelbuddy

will HONDA bearings work with EAGLE rods?

the reason i ask is because like 2 or 3 people said i can not reuse my old bearings because the eagle rods come sized for number 3 bearings or something liek that so i need to get new ones.

but what if i measure everything out and it happens that again the new bearnigs i need arent number 3 again. then what? im so confsed

PM-Performance

yes Honda Bearings will work with Eagle Rods

BROOD

When you switch to the eagle rods (or any different rod than the original) the bearing thickness required may change. Think about it the crank diameter is remaining constant but you may be altering the rod inner diameter.....thuis requiring different bearing thickness.
The correct sized Honda bearings will work in the Eagle rods...ACL bearings with correct oil clearnaces will also work.

Using a #3 for Eagle rods is a nice starting point but don't take it for granted the size may not be correct. Measure the diameters and size the bearings or at lease use plastigauge.
I agree this is not something to shortcut, may as well do it correct the first time.

DaveF

put it this way........

if you dont have the correct sized bearing plan on NOT keeping the engine in the car for 100 miles. it will get fuked up..


in reguard to where someone stated "i can see d & #3, does that mean i need a black"???

you answer is NO, the numbers on the crank correspond with the letters on the bottom of the block, you have to look closely but they are there...

the letters correspond with the numbers on the side of the rod.

hope this helps.

do it right the first time, or dont do it.

rudebwoy

iTrader: (1)

what color is number 3? I'm also using eagle rods, and all my stock rod bearing color were green, they have green color on the side, so I bought a set of green which me 170euros, so dont tell me I'm gonna need to another set.

g2turbo

When i purchased my Eagle rods it was recomended to run all green bearings with the eagle rods. I did just that and never had any problems.

Nextelbuddy

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what year is your motor?

Flamenco-T

you still have to plastigauge it, different rods have different diameter on the rods and you need to re-check the celarance, it is not the same from motor to motor even for the same year and mileage.

Stan

Blurex

iTrader: (1)

could someone post what the clearence is suppose to be and what is the allowable tolerence is for the rod bearings...that may help even more...also what is it for the mains