Query: Using SCUBA compressed air?

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Old Jun 3, 2002 | 11:54 PM
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Please bear with my 'nonsense' but I had an interesting idea and I'd like to hear other opinions.

Please this is only theoretical and I haven't any plans to pursue this.

Anyway, a friend was asking if it would be possible to convert his GoPed into some sort of FI setup. I told him he's on crack and if he can find a 'whistle' sized turbo for his tiny GoPed motor I'll help him. I told him if he wanted to destroy his motor he might as well NOS it (kits do exist for them using Sneaky Pete systems).

Then I thought he could have a FI setup on demand using an 1/8 size standard scuba tank, "Spare Air" size to those who scuba, regulated to a couple of psi via air-valve and some sort of remote operated solenoid to 'boost' on demand. He'd need to have a 12V battery on board to power up the hardware and run the external fueling. Heh, it may work. I should tell him to find an MF2 and the smallest single injector available. Maybe a 1-way air check valve after the filter so the compressed air doesn't blow it off.

Know what I mean?

No need to get into details, its the concept I was interested in.
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 12:01 AM
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Default Re: Query: Using SCUBA compressed air? (Pritos)

wtf, I'm tired. Why did I post that?! Moderator, please feel free to lock. I gotta hit the sack.
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Old Jun 4, 2002 | 12:36 AM
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it's an..... interesting.. idea but there's not enough air to make it really worth your while maybe a full tank, an aluminum 3000psi tank, and you could get something out of it. the "regulator" setup would be tricky. heh.
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Old Jun 5, 2002 | 11:47 AM
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This was actually done on a drag car in the 70's i believe (it WAS done, not sure the time frame though), I think the guys name was Jack...somthing.

I was trying this a while back on my truck but coldnt get the valve that switches between compressed air and ambinet (sp?) to work right.

Search the newsgroups with google, it will come up.
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Old Jun 5, 2002 | 11:59 AM
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Let's say you have a 1.8l running at 6000rpm. That's 1.8l per engine cycle, which is two revolutions. So thats 1.8l * 3000 = 5400 cubic liters of air per minute. Or 190 cubic feet of air per minute.

A scuba tank is 80c.f. This all works out to (80 / 190) * 60 = 25 seconds of air (at ZERO boost!)

With, say, 10psi boost, it would be much less time, perhaps 15 seconds

Notice the 3000psi never enters into it...


[Modified by kb58, 9:12 PM 6/5/2002] Darn math!!!


[Modified by kb58, 9:14 PM 6/5/2002]
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Old Jun 5, 2002 | 11:09 PM
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Default Re: Query: Using SCUBA compressed air? (kb58)

sure it does, the reason a tank with just a few cubic feet of physical volume holds 80-100 cubic feet of air is because it's at 3000psi. but yeah, it's not enough air.

Let's say you have a 1.8l running at 6000rpm. That's 1.8l per engine cycle, which is two revolutions. So thats 1.8l * 3000 = 5400 cubic liters of air per minute. Or 190 cubic feet of air per minute.

A scuba tank is 80c.f. This all works out to (80 / 190) * 60 = 25 seconds of air (at ZERO boost!)

With, say, 10psi boost, it would be much less time, perhaps 15 seconds

Notice the 3000psi never enters into it...


[Modified by kb58, 9:12 PM 6/5/2002] Darn math!!!


[Modified by kb58, 9:14 PM 6/5/2002]
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