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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 03:20 PM
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gsr block, .25mm overbored type r spoon balanced pistons, type r shotpeened rods, type r knife edged crankshaft, b16 head, skunk2 stage2 cams, skunk2 retainers/springs, 5 angle valve job, skunk2 IM, jdm itr tranny (4.785 final drive), act heavy clutch/lightened flywheel, cylinder wall honed... those are all the engine mods... it was built solely for n/a, but ive been learning and researching as much as i can to see if turbo would be possible (obviously with changing things..) and what i would need to change.. c/r ratio is probably upwards of 12 and r/s ratio should be 1.58 (type r)... am i crazy/would this just be a dream, or would it be possible, if i were to change out the pistons and cams to go turbo...?
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 03:23 PM
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change your pistons, cams and trade me your final drive and go turbo JK, just do the firts two

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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 03:27 PM
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ok that's the first step lol i know a lower r/s ratio is o.k. for FI, and i would need lower compression pistons.. what specs should i look for in a cam that would go well with turbo?

forgot to mention, the engine has 110k miles on it.... all of the engine rebuild was done 1 year ago, maybe 20k miles ago..
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 03:28 PM
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I liek to stay higher in a turbo range, what I meant by higher is 10:1, higher to some and others.

get a lower lift on the cam, stock GS-R works very very well

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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 03:31 PM
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I would redo it completely...with a combination of high miles, stock internals and high compression, its not a good candidate for FI in my opinion...tuning will a bitch with no window for errors
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 03:36 PM
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Change the cams and just run low boost but make sure you buy some EMS of some sort with some big injectors.
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MiraiZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would redo it completely...with a combination of high miles, stock internals and high compression, its not a good candidate for FI in my opinion...tuning will a bitch with no window for errors</TD></TR></TABLE>

im worried about the high mileage.. all that pressure on the sidewalls after 110k miles... does anyone think it would hold for very long? (5-6 lbs of boost..) as far as CR, i'd look to get new pistons.. thanks for all the replies guys

Edit: what about resleeving to take care of the high mileage? or is that just a on me since i don't know much about resleeving?
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 04:34 PM
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rebuilding and replacing worn parts + honing the cylinder walls will help the high miles part. A cr of 12 is way high, IMO...you willhave to dump fuel and retard timing like a mother until you can get it tuned...cr of 10 migh be better.
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 05:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MiraiZ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rebuilding and replacing worn parts + honing the cylinder walls will help the high miles part. A cr of 12 is way high, IMO...you willhave to dump fuel and retard timing like a mother until you can get it tuned...cr of 10 migh be better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

cylinder walls were honed when everything was replaced.. crank, rods, pistons, head, everything... i dont hafta hone again, do i?? and i know i hafta lower cr, ive been hearing a lot about wiseco pistons..? but what specs for cams should i look into? ive heard lower lift is better for turbo, correct me if i'm wrong.
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 05:09 PM
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when you're replacing your pistons, chcek your cylinder walls, if they are still intact and honed are still visible, you'll be fine.

PS: I have a wiseco pistons for sale if you;re interested, 81.5mm 9.8: CR

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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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This is what honed cylinders plus new pistons will look like My turbo project is coming along.... It's all about the benjamin's though!




BTW - These are 9.2:1 compression.

Grr...can't seem to get damn pictures to work
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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hey thanks man.. how much you askin? keep me updated, i'm still not 100% sure if i'm going to do this, but i want to get serious about it..
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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Lol, finally! ...

I know I have a better picture of the cylinder walls.. let me try to find it for ya.



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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 05:23 PM
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mm shiny
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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Lol. yup, cause it's honed out But, you should lower your compression if you plan on running turbo.
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 05:29 PM
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ok so figure i get lower compression pistons and lower lift cams, will my rods, crank, and block be able to hold all the pressure?? my r/s ratio should be 1.58 so that does put a bit of extra pressure on the sidewalls as there's more angle... it's a daily driver and i don't want it to blow up on me anytime soon

i just remembered, my hondata s200 just came in.. now i'm looking to run boost.. lol it's not installed yet, so can i buy an upgrade for it, or do i hafta sell it and buy a new hondata?
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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Lower lift cams aren't necessary (your choice though) I'm running stock ITR cams and they rock!!!
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 06:20 PM
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open deck is gonna be risky with alot of boost.
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Old Jun 22, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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ehh sorry, whats open deck??

Edit: on me


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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 05:42 AM
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yup, the only thing you can do is block-guard. Unless of course you want to spend a lot of money to put sleeves in.
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 05:57 AM
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ive heard lots of bad things about block guard..
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 06:00 AM
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Personally, I'd either get it sleeved or leave it as is...block guards aren't worth it and they're pretty permanant one they are in.
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 06:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TraKtioN &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">open deck is gonna be risky with alot of boost.</TD></TR></TABLE>

what do you consider a lot of boost? im lookin for maybe 7 psi lol 110k miles on open deck is kinda harsh if im going turbo.. does anyone think it would hold?? sleeves are really pricey
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 06:45 AM
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all b-series engines are open deck! we turbocharge all of them....don't stress. but the point is....if your going to remove everything and change out the pistons....just send out your block and sleeve it......and boost more......but with all the N/A app stuff that you have jeez.....stay N/A.....well you could probably sell all that for you FI app.....good luck!
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Old Jun 23, 2003 | 07:21 AM
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i dont' need excessive boost.. all i was looking to do was lower cr pistons, maybe some cams (if i need 'em) and go straight to boost... resleeving block is a lot of $, but my question was, could my block, as is - with the miles it has on it, withstand maybe 7 lbs of boost? could i put together the turbo now, and resleeve later when i got some more $? (sorry for the dumb questions )
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