Finally decided I DO infact need a wideband to sleep well at night. I'm slanting towards PLX just because I have read better reviews about A/F accuracy but I'm curious what the difference is because I believe they come with the same bosch O2
Also any other brands/models reviews are welcome.

Thanks

 

Innovate, PLX, AEM, Zeitronix, FJO, etc

UEGO for the win. <-- I've used innovate, plx, aem, and zeitronix... edited because IM WRONG. :-D
AEM IMHO


Modified by Eric@HorsepowerFreaks at 6:48 PM 9/26/2006

 

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UEGO for the win. &lt;-- I've used innovate, plx, aem, and zeitronix... The UEGO sensor by default is considerable more accurate.

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UEGO sensor is the same as the PLX. It's a Bosch sensor. I think most of them use this now.

 

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PLX!!!!

 

Anyone tried the dyno function of the r500 yet? Any details?

ian

 

i want a simple one the plx or aem, as in plug and play and use them in my friends cars any suggestions.

 

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AEM IMHO </TD></TR></TABLE>

Can't go wrong with either brand, but I personally have the AEM UEGO on all three of my cars. The oldest sensor so far has been running in the car for about 3 years

 

if you are ever going to run race gas, dont dare get the AEM.

ive seen more AEM's fail than anything.


I like the plx much better.

 

remember if you want to log within the program you tune with the aem has a homo non linear voltage output.

 

Doesnt every O2 sensor eventually fail when using race gas especially C16. I am asuming you are talking about the O2 sensor and not the guage itself. I know people who tune with Innovate and if you want to be tuned with C16 you have buy your own sensor

 

the older aem wb guages had issues w/longevity of the sensors .. the new ones are reprogrammed (the ones with the detachable harness), i have a customer w/a supra that runs ONLY race gas in his car, he has about 7k miles on his car and the wb is still reading correctly. the sensors are around 75 bux from aem at retail.. they can be had for alot less than that. i dont like the plx b/c the cheaper one has a shitty display that you cant see in the sun.

the innovative wb sucks ***, i hate those things w/a passion

 

Thanks for that info, I have a new AEM like you described and I am so happy to hear this. Is that the reason why they dont have to be calibrated everytime like the Innovate

 

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just curious what dont you like about the innovate? I always had problems with mine and using the rpm pickup that you get with it. Eventually i just stopped using that feature of it.

 

Sensor part numbers are as follows....

AEM Wideband PN 12 575 657 (258 007 206) LSU 4.2

PLX Wideband PN (VW) 021 906 262 (258 007 057/058) same as innovate

They're all UEGO controllers (meaning the sensor heater is controlled by the "box") Old bosch sensors would loose accuracy with higher EGT's...these do much better than the old 4 wire bosch sensors.

I took a bunch of pics of the PLX-300 and the AEM 6 in 1 for comparison...I'll load them up here in a sec.

 

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they are inconsistent as hell.. put it in one car and it might work right, might not.. then you gota take the **** out to calibrate it.. a couple of the dynos i use have innovate wb's.. and 1/2 the time i go there we end up sitting around while they expletive w/the wb trying to make the **** work right. hell i had one in a car that i thought was working right, put it on the dyno and it was reading over 2 points different from what the dyno was. so i went and got my old aem wb and a brand new one, put in the car and the innovate was the odd one. after all that i just cant trust em anymore.....

 

dito...i hated my innovate.

 

thanks for all the info. So did the m300 come with the same bosch sensor that the newer AEM's come with or is the sensor the m300 came with somewhat unreliable at higher temps?

 

So the Innovative LC-1 is junk???? I run the AEM with the newer sensor setup. Im looking to get one relatively cheap to use to tune my daily and other cars. Im not taking my aem uego out of my race car thats stays in there so what do you guys recomend thats decently priced and works good enough

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they are inconsistent as hell.. put it in one car and it might work right, might not.. then you gota take the **** out to calibrate it.. a couple of the dynos i use have innovate wb's.. and 1/2 the time i go there we end up sitting around while they expletive w/the wb trying to make the **** work right. hell i had one in a car that i thought was working right, put it on the dyno and it was reading over 2 points different from what the dyno was. so i went and got my old aem wb and a brand new one, put in the car and the innovate was the odd one. after all that i just cant trust em anymore.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats true i have noticed some rather large inconsistincies sometime between my innovate and the dyno wideband. I have a new innovate now and it reads about 2-3 tenths richer than my plx both using the same sensor. My old lm1 read about a half point difference between that and the plx.

 

I have the aem uego and innovate wb and they read 0.1 off of eachother... but that's because my aem is in the dp and the innovate is in the tail pipe so its off by 0.1 leaner then the aem. If you ask me they both work great!

 

AEm right here

 

Nobody has tried the dyno function of the plx?

Ian

 

I love my PLX! Big ups for them!

 

had an aem fail on me.... now using an inovate