.60 a/r compressor cover? thats normal. is it still a .63 hotside? if so i think you actually got a better turbo...

 

dont even tell the shop, contact a lawyer, have receipts available for the parts you purchased vs what you actually have. that way they cant screw around, bs, etc...

 

Not sure, I just saw the a/r didnt match what was on my recept. I'll have to double check the hotside when I get back to the shop.

The only problem is my recept doesn't say AEBS sleeved block, it just says "The shop's name sleeved block" What I was thinking is calling them and recording the conversation because they tell me over the phone the parts they "claim" to have used. Maybe Ill contact a lawyer first.

This sucks, I just want some boost in my life

 

you were looking at the compressor a/r, which no one ever really refers to. .63 would normally refer to the turbine side.

 

looks like one of those pos JG blocks that always drops a sleeve and takes out the main journals.

 

Why not just hone it and put new rings/pistons(if you need them) in it? No cooling problems and no headasket problems yet, right? just put it back together correctly and have fun with it.

 

That's what I was thinking. I think that's about my only option for now because I can't afford a new block + sleeving. I did put a good amount of miles on it before with no issues. If I bore it to 83mm, what are the chances Ill have to re-deck it? I just dont want to grind the welds if I dont have to.

Also, I noticed there are no welds on the sleeves themselves, just on the "block guard" to the outer side of the block. Does the outside of the block go through much stress?

 

a bore does not require decking unless someone screws something up, whatever you do keep that block away for the origional sleever's

 

name this shop so nobody else on this site can have their motors fondled, molested or otherwise offensively touched by them.

 

Cool. For sure, those guys will never touch my car again. Idiots.

 

I will for sure, once I talk to them. If they don't take care of me and make this right, I will post how shitty they are on every forum there is!

 

First off, you have nothing in writing stating that they sold you aebs block, you're **** out of luck there. sorry. the receipt says its their block and unless you can produce other documentation to say otherwise, thats the way it is. Its a buyer beware market.

second, contact the police BEFORE you record any phone conversation. It is illegal in many states to record a conversation without the others permission, some states its ok as long as 1 person in the conversation knows its being recorded. I dont know CO laws, so find out first before you end up being in the wrong and getting sued yourself.

Third, how long ago was the work done?

I hate to break the news to you but you probably have no recourse against the shop, Itll be tough to find a lawyer willing to take this on. The sleeves dont appear to be stock but Im no expert. put it back together and enjoy it till something breaks, if it worries you, buy a GE block for 1100 and be done with that pos.

 

have you looked for a no warranty on performance parts disclaimer on the receipt?? most shops have them. I can say because i have them... those are not AEBS sleeves.. AEBS are closed deck sleeves and mine are o-ringed as well.. goto aebsracing.com and goto products.. crappy situation you are in.. we need to know the name of the shady shop! also what garrett were you suppose to get? if it was a 35r precision makes a BB 35r as well.. im pretty sure its a garrett center section with precision housings... i was looking at one before i came across the deal i got on a used garrett 35r

 

You're right, I have nothing in writing about the block. But... I do a have a recept for a garrett turbo that is NOT on my car. I can record them saying I have an AEBS block but like you say that may cause problems. Man this is so ****ed!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How unethical can people be???? Is a customer supposed to inspect every part they order?? B.S. I paid the shop because I didnt know what to do. That's the point of paying a shop. Now its clear they are taking advantage of people that "don't know".

All the reciept says is they are "not responsible for product failures." What if you dont get the product you buy?? I have a reciept for a "Garrett GT3076R T3/T4 .63 A/R" The turbo on my car is a Precision. **** this, Im about to do something stupid......

 

Precision takes garrett turbos and modifies them.

Confront them with your evidence that they screwed you in an adult and mature way. Absolutely no threats or name calling, that gets you nowhere. When they tell you to **** off, inform them of this thread and let them know there will be plenty of other threads just like it all over the interwebz. You can also contact the BBB, but the usually doesnt do much unless they're a respectable shop that doesnt want their image tarnished. That gives them a chance to come on here and explain their side of the story and it may help you to recover some lost funds.

 

Aren't Precision turbos cheaper?

Good news, I talked to the police and Im aloud to record a conversation to present in court if necessary. Once I get them on record plus the receipts I have, this case is locked. I'm going to give them the opportunity to make it right, if they dont this will get ugly for them. Ill post details and the name of the shop once I confront them.

 

precision turbos are actually more expensive compared to a garrett counterpart.

 

Yes.

I hope your legal case goes well. I know here in Ohio you can record any phone call you want as long as you tell them. That's the reason if you have ever had a call center call they legally have to tell you it's being recorded. Odd your states not like that.

 

The shop was 100 miles away and they had my car for over a month. I didnt want to drive up there to see anything other than the block. I asked them to tell me when they got it or at least send me pictures. By the time I heard back from them they said, "sorry its already in your car". Then they went off telling me how bad *** my block was. lol!!!!! ROFL!!!

Ya I verified with the police that as long as one of the 2 parties in a conversation agrees to have it recorded it's legal. That's why the call center can record you without your premission, they just choose to tell you they are. But hey all states are different. I hope I get em on tape!

 

damn thats shitty.

 

In the mean time Im going to order 83mm pistons and bore out the block. The Arias 83mm pistons have a compression ratio of 9.4 Should I still run an OEM gasket, or get one that's thicker to lower the compression? Im going to be running about 500whp on E-85.

 

welding on a block creates hot spots and makes the sleeves weaker and more prone to crack in said spots just my .02

 

10:1 is perfectly fine with E85, I will be 10-10.5:1 with my new motor and I am shooting for 35psi+ with a T4/T67 and I know there will be no issues.

 

That's what most people are saying, but I cant afford a new block. If the shop gives me my money back I'll have options. For now I don't have a choise but to run this block. It did hold up to 10,000 miles at 20psi so Im hoping my luck there continues. The one thing I noticed, there are no welds to the sleeves themeslves. Just around the block guard thing.

Cool. I figured 9.4 wouldn't be an issue but I thought id check anyway. Thanks