Thanks everyone....this is why i like this board than the srt board....if it's not an srt over there it gets flamed for the most part. It handles ok i suppose...nothing to write home to mom about but it will have to do. Yes it's an 04 and does have the standard lsd The 04's are rated at 230hp and 250tq. I've come to accept that I drive a neon but oh well that's what it is for the most part. I plan on getting some black wheels for it also. I thought about getting the stockers powder coated but i think ill just get some lighter 17's..the cost would be around the same anyway. Thanks again for the comments and ill be glad to answer any questions you might have.

Andrew

 

Damn sorry for the double post...i tried to stop it lol

 

Looks nice

 

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How is the engine impressive? Just curious... It takes 2.4L and 14psi of boost to make around 215whp, and it's still under 100hp/L with 14 psi of boost. On the other hand, you can take a b16a, feed it 15psi of boost with the exact same turbo, and see upwards of 320whp, putting it at 200hp/L. Impressive? Not even slightly close. Is the car fast? Yes.

Definitely looks 100x better than your standard Neon too. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I had a friend tell me the engineering done by Dodge/Mopar on the development on the motor. I'm not going to get into right but but it's amazing. You have to remember that this vehicle has to be a mass produced product and be reliable. Yeah, if Honda turbo'd a stock H22 Prelude, say 12 lbs. of boost, Honda would have an epidemic. Sorry man, if Honda built a turbo motor and have the same luxories the end cost of production would be astronomical. For about 20k the SRT-4 the best bang the buck.

 

I like it

 

Is a B16 with 15 psi of boost going to last 150,000 miles? Hellz no. If you read up on the 2.4L in there it is a really, really strong motor. I suggest reading SCC's article on the motor; it is impressive. Also that 320 whp B16 (not easily done) has no low rpm torque for daily drivability and everything (exhaust, ECU, etc) has been heavily modified. If you want more power than HP Racing makes a turbo kit for $2400 for the SRT-4. Can we say 310 whp/311 lb/ft torque? I just don't see how you can say this motor isn't impressive.

 

[QUOTE=Also that 320 whp B16 (not easily done) has no low rpm torque for daily drivability and everything (exhaust, ECU, etc) has been heavily modified.[/QUOTE]

You hit the nail right on the head! That is why the SRT-4 is a 2.4liter not a 1.6 for the stop and go daily driving which this vehicle was intended for. Sorry to come harsh but some of us(HT) need broaden the Honda SCC Horizon. Honda builds excellent motors Hands down that is why they stick with NA not forced induction. A turbo production car will have more problems than a NA car in general. More moving parts more problems.

 

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I had a friend tell me the engineering done by Dodge/Mopar on the development on the motor. I'm not going to get into right but but it's amazing. You have to remember that this vehicle has to be a mass produced product and be reliable. Yeah, if Honda turbo'd a stock H22 Prelude, say 12 lbs. of boost, Honda would have an epidemic. Sorry man, if Honda built a turbo motor and have the same luxories the end cost of production would be astronomical. For about 20k the SRT-4 the best bang the buck.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its still FWD, I can get evos with under 10k miles for &lt;22k i would definately invest in a EVO vs. SRT4 IMO.

it looks nice, except for the neon headlights.. they need to design new ones! (aftermarket)

 

id never dive a mopar.......1 luv=honda

 

cool car...

but its a neon...but its still cool

 

It's looking good. That's the best color IMO too. I can't decide if I like the front grill with the foam gone or not. Either way it looks good.

HP Racing makes a turbo kit for the SRT-4?

 

Ive ridden in this car many times and ill be the first to admit that i was wrong about them. I was just like yall at first..."its still a damn peon" and "its full of bugs". But after riding in it i have to say that its a very impressive car from the factory. Although the 03's had alot of problems they seem to have fixed them in the 04 model...especially when it comes to traction. The factory lsd and the bfg kdw's(the only one ive ever seen with them stock ) makes for some sticky launches ...not to mention that it has a very useable torque curve. As for the HP racing turbo upgrade...it looks like *** to me...the welds on the mani look like **** and the wg placement is awful. Im gonna sale him my t3/t04e for dirt cheap when i upgrade and well make that thing a beast...you wait...this "neon" is going to be eating up some boosted wee16's for breakfast .

Sean

 

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friggin turbo'd neon....

come on honda... damn

 

Very nice car. I would take one, but I'm not about to jump boat anytime soon.

What is hondas response to the srt4? The same old Si, 160 weak *** hp with a body kit and 5 lug suspension, but no bigger brakes..

 

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Turn caps lock off, assclown.

 

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friggin turbo'd neon....

come on honda... damn</TD></TR></TABLE>

Trust me Honda would never turbocharge a SCC ie; Civic, Integra at least in our life time. Honda is having problems making a reliable tranny let alone a turbo car? As for the tranny I am changing at least 5 Odyssey,Accord V6 and 4 cyl. trans a month at worK(Honda dealer) because they cannot take the torque. To by the way, Honda is a VERY conservative company.

 

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Trust me Honda would never turbocharge a SCC ie; Civic, Integra at least in our life time. Honda is having problems making a reliable tranny let alone a turbo car? As for the tranny I am changing at least 5 Odyssey,Accord V6 and 4 cyl. trans a month at worK(Honda dealer) because they cannot take the torque. To by the way, Honda is a VERY conservative company.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Honda doesnt have to put out a factory turbo car (tho id love of they did), the strength of the Honda is in the aftermarket - and always will be. Just my .2

Here's a ton of Neon Pics (not mine)

http://web.tampabay.rr.com/blackcat/My_SRT.htm



Modified by FredoSP at 4:35 AM 12/29/2003

 

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Its still FWD, I can get evos with under 10k miles for &lt;22k i would definately invest in a EVO vs. SRT4 IMO.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You know what, you are just the very few that can get deals like that. There is a bigger market just selling factory cars from the dealer where average joe's can finance a brand new SCC with warranty. I'm quite sure the majority of the population would not want to buy a used car just to get more for their money.

 

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Honda doesnt have to put out a factory turbo car (tho id love of they did), the strength of the Honda is in the aftermarket</TD></TR></TABLE>

The strength if Honda is in their engine design. How many other companies out there can you name that produce short-stroke, high-output, small-displacement, naturally aspirated engines? Pretty much Honda and Toyota. If you boost any b-series, or any 2zz toyota motor, you'll see much much better results than any factory forced induction engine because they rely on technologly, engine dynamics and theory, rather than the "Shove everything at the piston" theory.

Like i said, its all personal opinion. I see a lot of people on this board losing focus as to why they have Honda's in the first place... or better yet, they never had any idea why they have such a great car. It would do the Honda world great justice for these people to buy a Neon instead of a Civic.

 

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The strength if Honda is in their engine design. .</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree, I was specifically talking about performance parts. Of course you need a strong foundation, that's why so many of us buy these cars to begin with.

 

tis why i love my honda nice n humble packs a punch n saves gas

 

Another HT thread......

I am curious what makes the engine warrent praise. Many like to look at the output numbers. They are high, 230ish is a lot of hp. Now, there are pushrod 2v chev engines like the 454ss pickup that lay similar power to the neon. Why are its numbers not impressive??? Because it uses 7.44L of displacement to accomplish its 230whp. Not a very impressive engine to look at now is it?

Lets look at the neon. 2.4L, dohc, 16v, HUGE FMIC, Fair sized turbo, high flow exasut/"muffler", decent intake manifold, 14PSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, and good ecu setup. We have many helpful tools being used to help this make power, YET we see HP/L numbers still below what a stock b16a produces without the liberty of 14psi. Now, sombody tell me how this makes an impressive engine, and if you feel it is impressive, why is the 230whp of the 7.44L 454ss pickup also not impressive.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liveforphysics &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Another HT thread......

I am curious what makes the engine warrent praise. Many like to look at the output numbers. They are high, 230ish is a lot of hp. Now, there are pushrod 2v chev engines like the 454ss pickup that lay similar power to the neon. Why are its numbers not impressive??? Because it uses 7.44L of displacement to accomplish its 230whp. Not a very impressive engine to look at now is it?

Lets look at the neon. 2.4L, dohc, 16v, HUGE FMIC, Fair sized turbo, high flow exasut/"muffler", decent intake manifold, 14PSI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, and good ecu setup. We have many helpful tools being used to help this make power, YET we see HP/L numbers still below what a stock b16a produces without the liberty of 14psi. Now, sombody tell me how this makes an impressive engine, and if you feel it is impressive, why is the 230whp of the 7.44L 454ss pickup also not impressive. </TD></TR></TABLE>

cause in my eyes &lt; 20k and get all those goodies and run low 14's maybe high 13's on drag radials and having factory upgrades with keeping the warranty is a selling point in my book.

I totally agree with you, I wanted to give the post another angle

 

you also have to remember that it has 8.1:1 pistons....not 11:1

 

it looks hot