^ what about when your manifold sees boost? its basicly a glorified version of the stock pcv set up.

 

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my setup.. works just fine.. no filter so theres not restrictions.. i'd like to add 2 more holes when time allows</TD></TR></TABLE>

how does the manifold have a vacuum source under boost? are you still talking about a d-series?

 

I think this is where the above image was taken from and re-done

http://www.beesandgoats.com/bo...l#PCV


Note: NO PCV VALVE

 

So, what do you do if you don't have a intake arm on your turbo inlet?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by flood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think this is where the above image was taken from and re-done

http://www.beesandgoats.com/bo...l#PCV


Note: NO PCV VALVE</TD></TR></TABLE>

i got this image from another thread on h-t and had it edited to show how my setup works.

 

this is b series motor

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EJ1 wilcox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So, what do you do if you don't have a intake arm on your turbo inlet?

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Make one? Mine has ~6 or 7 inch pipe that extends out from the turbo with the filter at the very end.

 

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Not possible, there is no room in my setup... my compressor is on the driver's side and there is just enough room for my filter between the compressor housing and the frame rail...

There are a lot of boosted cars without filters or intake arms on the turbo, what do they do?

I have been up to my nose reading about the PCV system all afternoon!

 

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I have been up to my nose reading about the PCV system all afternoon! </TD></TR></TABLE>

Mesh metal screen.

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I have been up to my nose reading about the PCV system all afternoon! </TD></TR></TABLE>

These PVC threads will all end shortly... 1 more test to do then I can compile all my data in 1 thread.

 

Up...

I think I am going to get some tubing tomorrow and try to figure something out...

I am going to disconnect the pcv from the IM and run a new hose from the pcv valve to the ground, then plug up the IM port...

I hope it works! I have been running my turbo setup without crankcase ventilation, which I'm learning is very bad... I hope I haven't already damaged my rings...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tchleung &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Block off IM nipple.

Run new line from black bose and point it at the ground.

Run new line from valve cover nipple and point it at the ground.

DONE

Use clear hoses so you can take a look at them every once in a while to see how covered in oil they are. If it's just lightly brown. That's just oil vapors. If it's really soaked and covered with oil inside, well your motor is not that healthy then lol.

I run this exact setup. No problems.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Try it my way like that... If you do not want to runa new hose right from the box. just hollow out teh PCV or get a reducer or just a coupler and run the hose to the ground. no PCV.

 

Okay, so for this to work I need to hollow out my PCV valve or bypass it completely?

What if leave the PCV valve hooked up and just run a line to the ground?

Does the PCV valve only open under vacuum? Or, will it vent when it sees pressure from the crankcase?

 

well they are generlaly made to open in vacuum and close to prevent pressure gonig into crankcase. With that said. I wasn't sure if the pressures from teh crnakcase woudl be enoguh to push the valve open so I jsut bypassed it completely. less restrictions IMO.

 

just take out the PCV and get a connector and a new hose same size as the one comnig off box(fairly large. 1/2" maybe?) and conenct the twovia connector and there you go. No hacknig etc invovled so can always return it back to the way you had it.

 

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These PVC threads will all end shortly... 1 more test to do then I can compile all my data in 1 thread.

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Man, you need to finish this already. How long has it been now? It seems like 2 years in the making!

 

Quote:Tchleung »
Block off IM nipple.
Run new line from black bose and point it at the ground.

Run new line from valve cover nipple and point it at the ground.

DONE

Use clear hoses so you can take a look at them every once in a while to see how covered in oil they are. If it's just lightly brown. That's just oil vapors. If it's really soaked and covered with oil inside, well your motor is not that healthy then lol.

I run this exact setup. No problems

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Hmm...makes sense.
I have a greddy catch can in my car now..luckily the car has yet to see boost.
im going to eliminate it completly and run a hose to the ground from both the black box and valve cover as well as block off the I/M nipple. DONE!

 

i was looking into adding a moroso vacuum pump to extract the crankcase pressure.....attach it to a catch can and vent it into the air. i know the V8 folks run this to relieve pressure, provide better ring seating, and to reduce blow-by. I was going to run this, but since i'm leaving the Honda FI world i'm no longer pursuing this. I haven't seen anybody do this, but it could be a better solution.

 

Die-Laughing: Yeps houdl work fine. I used to run a closed loop setup running it back to turbo intake and everyway I tried it, i had some small oil burning for some reason.. Switching to this cured everything and was generally better on gas too for some reason.

 

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yep... im not one to make a suggestion after testing something for only 1 day. I have run several different arragments for months at a time to get a good idea of the long term effects.

 

Man just get the endyn breather system and be done with it, and use the whole set up. I'm glad I did.

 

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ahhh... but their is a better, more reliable, and practically free method, and I have the data to back it up.

I should finishing putting the information together by Saturday to finally put an end to all these endless PCV threads once and for all.

P.S. -- The Endyn setup was used in a variety of the tests too for comparison.

 

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I should finishing putting the information together by Saturday to finally put an end to all these endless PCV threads once and for all. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Sneek peek?

 

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That's why all these threads persist. No one bothers to take the time and write a thorough complete analysis based upon empirical observation. If I start giving some details out prematurely than some individuals will run with those ideas and speculate without getting the whole picture.

My post will include a detailed list of the testing materials and methods as well as the results to allow public discussion and criticism of the experimental process.

Here is a hint for you people who can't wait:

Their is more than one solution depending upon your budget, performance goals, and environmental considerations.

I will be discussing application as it relates to B, D, F, and H engines.

 

I just want to park on someones driveway. dripping oil out of my car is like **** leakage. Its not supposed to happen. people look at you and sneer, why is his (remember, i'm allready hated because its a lowered honda that loud). lol

No enviromental concerns here, just driveway concerns! lol

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Si Shane &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just want to park on someones driveway. dripping oil out of my car is like **** leakage. Its not supposed to happen. people look at you and sneer, why is his (remember, i'm allready hated because its a lowered honda that loud). lol

No enviromental concerns here, just driveway concerns! lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have a solution for both you as well as those die hard environmentalists who don't want any vapors being emited into the atmosphere.

Its all about applying the best set of compromises to your desired application.