Omnipower 4 bar MAP
02-13-2008, 05:18 PM
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Re: Omnipower 4 bar MAP (Kid_SiR)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kid_SiR »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">has anyone used this 4 bar map sensor with hondata 
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Yes, it is natively supported by hondata.
Hondata has their own version of it aswell.
We sell a lot of these things
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes, it is natively supported by hondata.
Hondata has their own version of it aswell.
We sell a lot of these things
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02-14-2008, 05:53 AM
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Re: Omnipower 4 bar MAP (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yup, they work great. And i'll jump in the "we've got them in stock" bandwagon... </TD></TR></TABLE>
will be using one with my s300, now just waiting for when I have time to get the tune.
</TD></TR></TABLE> will be using one with my s300, now just waiting for when I have time to get the tune.
02-14-2008, 08:02 AM
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Re: Omnipower 4 bar MAP (phearable)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by phearable »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hondata has their own version of it as well.</TD></TR></TABLE>
lol, looks like people won't have problems finding these things
lol, looks like people won't have problems finding these things
02-14-2008, 08:11 AM
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Re: Omnipower 4 bar MAP (BoostedJeff)
Omnipower 4 Bar MAP (Manifold Absolute Pressure) sensors use state of the art bipolar op amp circuitry with thin film resistor networks built into each micro chip. Pressure changes are calculated on a true linear 0-5 volt scale via a specially designed silicon pressure sensor that also compensates for temperature changes. The ability to compensate for temperature changes allows the Omnipower 4 Bar MAP sensor to remain a minimum of 99% accurate from 32 degrees F to 180 degrees F through out its range of scale. With the true linear pressure vs. voltage scale there is never a need to re-tune at different altitudes as with other sensors. Competitors sensors on the market don't have true linear scaling which can cause your engine to go out of tune with elevation changes, often resulting in idle problems, poor drive ability, and catastrophic engine damage. Omnipower 4 bar MAP sensors can precisely calculate boost pressure from 1-43+ psi while still allowing smooth stock OEM drive ability at any boost level. Conveniently packaged in an OEM dimensional housing for easy install and an OEM look.
Key features
-40 to 260 degrees Fahrenheit temperature operating range
Able to respond from 10% of the pressure scale to 90% of the pressure scale in .001 seconds (the fastest response time of any MAP sensor on the market).
Automatic temperature compensation.
True linear scaling for perfect drive ability at all boost and vacuum levels.
Compatible with all aftermarket engine management systems.
99% accurate over full scale range under all conditions including temperature, altitude, and humidity changes.
Allows smoother engine operation, higher boost levels, and better drive ability than competitors turbo MAP sensors.
Direct plug and play for an easy install and an OEM look. Dimensionally identical to the stock MAP sensor.
Each sensor is hand assembled, pressure, and function checked in the USA for unparalleled quality control prior to shipping. Applications:
Honda civic 88-00 all models
Honda accord 94-02 all models including V6
Honda CRV 97-01 all models
Honda Del Sol 93-97 all models
Honda Odyssey 95-01 all models
Honda Prelude 92-01 all models
Honda S2000 00-05 all models
Key features
-40 to 260 degrees Fahrenheit temperature operating range
Able to respond from 10% of the pressure scale to 90% of the pressure scale in .001 seconds (the fastest response time of any MAP sensor on the market).
Automatic temperature compensation.
True linear scaling for perfect drive ability at all boost and vacuum levels.
Compatible with all aftermarket engine management systems.
99% accurate over full scale range under all conditions including temperature, altitude, and humidity changes.
Allows smoother engine operation, higher boost levels, and better drive ability than competitors turbo MAP sensors.
Direct plug and play for an easy install and an OEM look. Dimensionally identical to the stock MAP sensor.
Each sensor is hand assembled, pressure, and function checked in the USA for unparalleled quality control prior to shipping. Applications:
Honda civic 88-00 all models
Honda accord 94-02 all models including V6
Honda CRV 97-01 all models
Honda Del Sol 93-97 all models
Honda Odyssey 95-01 all models
Honda Prelude 92-01 all models
Honda S2000 00-05 all models
02-14-2008, 08:48 AM
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Re: Omnipower 4 bar MAP (DezalMonMotorSports)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DezalMonMotorSports »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can make your own for less</TD></TR></TABLE>
So do it
So do it
02-14-2008, 08:51 AM
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Re: Omnipower 4 bar MAP (B20Vtec)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B20Vtec »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">With the true linear pressure vs. voltage scale there is never a need to re-tune at different altitudes as with other sensors. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well, that part isn't really right. The reason for having to retune a turbo car at different elevations is due to changes in exhaust backpressure, which your map sensor has no way of compensating for.
Well, that part isn't really right. The reason for having to retune a turbo car at different elevations is due to changes in exhaust backpressure, which your map sensor has no way of compensating for.
02-14-2008, 09:17 AM
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Re: Omnipower 4 bar MAP (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Well, that part isn't really right. The reason for having to retune a turbo car at different elevations is due to changes in exhaust backpressure, which your map sensor has no way of compensating for. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Not to mention the sensors AEM uses from Klavico are more linear than these sensors. These sensors don't read past -23inHG I believe while the AEM sensors read -29.54 inHG.
Well, that part isn't really right. The reason for having to retune a turbo car at different elevations is due to changes in exhaust backpressure, which your map sensor has no way of compensating for. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Not to mention the sensors AEM uses from Klavico are more linear than these sensors. These sensors don't read past -23inHG I believe while the AEM sensors read -29.54 inHG.
02-14-2008, 09:32 AM
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Re: Omnipower 4 bar MAP (nowtype)
I don't think AEM uses Kavlico for their sensors anymore. I know they used to, but the sensors have changed and the output on the newer ones seems kinda jittery compared to the Kavlico sensors that AEM and Motec used to use.
I could care less about a map sensor reading past -23in, that's about as useful as a wideband that reads to 30:1 in my opinion.
I could care less about a map sensor reading past -23in, that's about as useful as a wideband that reads to 30:1 in my opinion.
02-14-2008, 10:01 AM
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Re: Omnipower 4 bar MAP (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think AEM uses Kavlico for their sensors anymore. I know they used to, but the sensors have changed and the output on the newer ones seems kinda jittery compared to the Kavlico sensors that AEM and Motec used to use.
I could care less about a map sensor reading past -23in, that's about as useful as a wideband that reads to 30:1 in my opinion.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm just stating that it is an incorrect claim. Motorola sensors are good sensors but far from the most linear sensors in the world. As for the low end vacuum, every once in a while you will come across a guy with a GM 3bar and the damn car won't idle properly. Well its because the sensors barely read 20inHG. Honestly, sensors should read at least 24inHG to insure perfect idle quality.
I could care less about a map sensor reading past -23in, that's about as useful as a wideband that reads to 30:1 in my opinion.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm just stating that it is an incorrect claim. Motorola sensors are good sensors but far from the most linear sensors in the world. As for the low end vacuum, every once in a while you will come across a guy with a GM 3bar and the damn car won't idle properly. Well its because the sensors barely read 20inHG. Honestly, sensors should read at least 24inHG to insure perfect idle quality.
02-14-2008, 10:57 AM
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Re: Omnipower 4 bar MAP (nowtype)
Well, most anyone who's upgrading from the OEM map sensor is probably upgrading to an injector 4-5 times bigger than stock as well, i don't think 1inHG of vacuum reading difference will make much of a difference.
We can argue all we want about what will happen on paper, the reality of it is that it won't matter in the real world. Cars run awesome on these sensors.
We can argue all we want about what will happen on paper, the reality of it is that it won't matter in the real world. Cars run awesome on these sensors.
02-14-2008, 12:01 PM
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Re: Omnipower 4 bar MAP (tony1)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anyone who's upgrading from the OEM map sensor is probably upgrading to an injector 4-5 times bigger than stock</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats what nobody seems to catch. Seeing how its common practice for people to slap a T3/T67 on a B16 and do 12psi max (and still make 4350+ whp), people using a 4bar sensor on a Honda won't have much need for a stock-like perfect idle.
If you have a 700whp car that's drag-only, and don't have any critical usage of anything below 2" Hg, why do you care about idle so much?? I'd bet most people complaining about idle on their drag car are still using 1600cc injectors w/o an injector driver.
BTW is it confirmed they are using Freescale sensors in the housings??
Thats what nobody seems to catch. Seeing how its common practice for people to slap a T3/T67 on a B16 and do 12psi max (and still make 4350+ whp), people using a 4bar sensor on a Honda won't have much need for a stock-like perfect idle.
If you have a 700whp car that's drag-only, and don't have any critical usage of anything below 2" Hg, why do you care about idle so much?? I'd bet most people complaining about idle on their drag car are still using 1600cc injectors w/o an injector driver.
BTW is it confirmed they are using Freescale sensors in the housings??
02-14-2008, 12:26 PM
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Re: Omnipower 4 bar MAP (HiProfile)
Forget about needing a 4 bar, if you need more than a stock honda map sensor, it would be dumb to buy anything other than this. The fact that it doesn't require rewiring (which most people couldn't do properly to save their life) and doesn't require an vacuum line or mounting makes it a no brainer.
For those that say this is too expensive, Honda sells an OEM Civic MAP sensor for $307.48 and they manufacture 1000 times more of those than these.
For those that say this is too expensive, Honda sells an OEM Civic MAP sensor for $307.48 and they manufacture 1000 times more of those than these.
02-14-2008, 12:58 PM
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Re: Omnipower 4 bar MAP (twkdCD595)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by twkdCD595 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey that looks like one I bought... </TD></TR></TABLE>
Me, too...
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