is that ok?(open internal wg)
03-01-2005, 01:10 PM
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is that ok?(open internal wg)
hello everybody.
i need to get my DP flang tomorow for my internal wastegate T3.
is that pipng any good? ( i know its a chrysler just example)
best regards
Modified by RACEPAK at 2:25 PM 3/1/2005
i need to get my DP flang tomorow for my internal wastegate T3.
is that pipng any good? ( i know its a chrysler just example)
best regards
Modified by RACEPAK at 2:25 PM 3/1/2005
03-01-2005, 01:20 PM
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Re: is that ok?(open internal wg) (RACEPAK)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RACEPAK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
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If its already internally gated, you need to seal that hole. If you planning on putting an external wastegate, then you need to remove internal gate...
Jon
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If its already internally gated, you need to seal that hole. If you planning on putting an external wastegate, then you need to remove internal gate...
Jon
03-01-2005, 01:22 PM
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Re: is that ok?(open internal wg) (dustin)
He has a wastegate... read guys.
He is asking if its ok to have an open dump. I think.... And yes its cool.
Here is mine:
He is asking if its ok to have an open dump. I think.... And yes its cool.
Here is mine:
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03-01-2005, 03:23 PM
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I have seen many of my Japanese friends do this mod. Yes, you will gain power and the turbo will spool faster. A lot of the guys with OEM and aftermarket internal w/g turbos use this setup for cheap performance. As long as this flange comes AFTER the flapper valve there will not be any problems.
Good luck
Good luck
03-01-2005, 03:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXDrew »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He has a wastegate... read guys.
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comprehending > reading apparently
This isn't a dsm turbo. The internal WG is not part of the turbine housing so you cant just leave that hole open unless you want a massive leak before the turbine. you could attach an external WG to that hole and it would work great
most T3s that have an internal WG have a 3 bolt outlet, like so
the flange you have is to block off the internal WG and run an external off of the manifold. this is what the turbine that would accept your 5 bolt flange would look like.
see, no internal WG, just a hole.
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comprehending > reading apparently
This isn't a dsm turbo. The internal WG is not part of the turbine housing so you cant just leave that hole open unless you want a massive leak before the turbine. you could attach an external WG to that hole and it would work great
most T3s that have an internal WG have a 3 bolt outlet, like so
the flange you have is to block off the internal WG and run an external off of the manifold. this is what the turbine that would accept your 5 bolt flange would look like.
see, no internal WG, just a hole.
03-01-2005, 04:25 PM
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Re: (dustin)
he deos. the flange on top was jsut a representation
racepak you can run your turbo open wastegate no problem. the design has a divided wall which works well. should help in preventing boost creep etcc.
heres his old post
and a picture of his turbo
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1157015
racepak you can run your turbo open wastegate no problem. the design has a divided wall which works well. should help in preventing boost creep etcc.
heres his old post
and a picture of his turbo
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1157015
03-01-2005, 04:28 PM
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Ah. How far does the actuator travel? It's going to hit the flange. Most setups like this use a hollowed-out extender ... i.e what bailhatch posted.
03-01-2005, 06:06 PM
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Re: (dustin)
huh thats an odd one, guess i was wrong. you can cut a recess in the back of the 5 bolt flange if its 1/2" it will work fine. my old t25 was like that worked great. That's a T3 for sure?
03-01-2005, 09:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bailhatch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> That's a T3 for sure?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yup....
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yup....
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03-01-2005, 10:04 PM
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Re: is that ok?(open internal wg) (dustin)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beepy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Obviously you won't make any boost. Besides that it will be as loud as an open exhaust.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dustin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You might be able to make like 0.5psi of boost in high RPMs... hehe.</TD></TR></TABLE>
a friend of mine who was sponsored by bfg a few years back made 1200+rwhp on open wastegates on his mustang.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dustin »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You might be able to make like 0.5psi of boost in high RPMs... hehe.</TD></TR></TABLE>
a friend of mine who was sponsored by bfg a few years back made 1200+rwhp on open wastegates on his mustang.
03-01-2005, 10:26 PM
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Re: (RACEPAK)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RACEPAK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yup....
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looks like a T25 to me with t3 inlet flange
yup....
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looks like a T25 to me with t3 inlet flange
03-02-2005, 07:50 AM
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Re: (project dc2)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by project dc2 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
looks like a T25 to me with t3 inlet flange</TD></TR></TABLE>
more pics of the turbo:
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/657283/10
so can i go my route ?
looks like a T25 to me with t3 inlet flange</TD></TR></TABLE>
more pics of the turbo:
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/657283/10
so can i go my route ?
03-02-2005, 01:57 PM
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Re: (RACEPAK)
Yes, your configuration is just an odd one. Definately smaller than a T3, though it has the T3 flanges. Kinda weird. Leaving the wastegate hole open is fine, though, besides the ear-splitting noise.
