is that ok?(open internal wg)

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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 01:10 PM
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hello everybody.

i need to get my DP flang tomorow for my internal wastegate T3.

is that pipng any good? ( i know its a chrysler just example)




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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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Obviously you won't make any boost. Besides that it will be as loud as an open exhaust.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 01:16 PM
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You might be able to make like 0.5psi of boost in high RPMs... hehe.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RACEPAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">



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If its already internally gated, you need to seal that hole. If you planning on putting an external wastegate, then you need to remove internal gate...

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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 01:22 PM
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Default Re: is that ok?(open internal wg) (dustin)

He has a wastegate... read guys.

He is asking if its ok to have an open dump. I think.... And yes its cool.

Here is mine:
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 01:26 PM
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i changed the pic....
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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Ah ok, that will work.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 01:41 PM
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You'll Be ok man

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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 02:31 PM
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Rockin one on mine, shizzle sounds mean as hell, i mean-- i'm also runnin open dp tho too
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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I have seen many of my Japanese friends do this mod. Yes, you will gain power and the turbo will spool faster. A lot of the guys with OEM and aftermarket internal w/g turbos use this setup for cheap performance. As long as this flange comes AFTER the flapper valve there will not be any problems.

Good luck
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 03:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRXDrew &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">He has a wastegate... read guys.
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comprehending &gt; reading apparently

This isn't a dsm turbo. The internal WG is not part of the turbine housing so you cant just leave that hole open unless you want a massive leak before the turbine. you could attach an external WG to that hole and it would work great

most T3s that have an internal WG have a 3 bolt outlet, like so


the flange you have is to block off the internal WG and run an external off of the manifold. this is what the turbine that would accept your 5 bolt flange would look like.


see, no internal WG, just a hole.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 03:44 PM
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Why would he say he has an internal WG when he doesn't ?
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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i think you got me all wrong fellows.

this is my turbo.

ignore all the graphics




???
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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he deos. the flange on top was jsut a representation


racepak you can run your turbo open wastegate no problem. the design has a divided wall which works well. should help in preventing boost creep etcc.

heres his old post


and a picture of his turbo





https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1157015
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 04:28 PM
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Ah. How far does the actuator travel? It's going to hit the flange. Most setups like this use a hollowed-out extender ... i.e what bailhatch posted.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 06:06 PM
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huh thats an odd one, guess i was wrong. you can cut a recess in the back of the 5 bolt flange if its 1/2" it will work fine. my old t25 was like that worked great. That's a T3 for sure?
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 09:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bailhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> That's a T3 for sure?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yup....
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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Default Re: is that ok?(open internal wg) (dustin)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beepy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Obviously you won't make any boost. Besides that it will be as loud as an open exhaust.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dustin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You might be able to make like 0.5psi of boost in high RPMs... hehe.</TD></TR></TABLE>


a friend of mine who was sponsored by bfg a few years back made 1200+rwhp on open wastegates on his mustang.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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Like I said before ... guys over here have been doing this for YEARS with great success.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RACEPAK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yup....
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looks like a T25 to me with t3 inlet flange
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 07:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by project dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


looks like a T25 to me with t3 inlet flange</TD></TR></TABLE>

more pics of the turbo:
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/657283/10

so can i go my route ?
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 01:44 PM
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TTT
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 01:57 PM
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Yes, your configuration is just an odd one. Definately smaller than a T3, though it has the T3 flanges. Kinda weird. Leaving the wastegate hole open is fine, though, besides the ear-splitting noise.
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 03:48 PM
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cool.... i like noise
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 04:39 PM
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Here is your "run of the mill" Japanese open outlet pipe for an internally wastegated S14/S15 Silvia turbo.




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