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Old 03-10-2006, 11:56 AM
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i told him where horizontally, just didnt specify how high/low it shouldve been. my bad.

is it too low to restrict the oil flow back into the oil pan from the turbo?

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im not too sure how well that will work out for ya... it'll be draining into the pool of oil so its gonna restrict how easy its gonna drain out of the turbo.

not sure on it being angled up it may not back up into the turbo, but definately restrict how easy it is to drain since its gonna push through alot of oil.
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that's horrible. You want the oil return above the oil level so it doesn't back up into the turbo. Why did he braze it, and not weld it?
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Can't weld brass, heh.
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yeah gonna be a little too low. oil is def. going to be backing up.
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Default Re: Is this oil pan tap OK? (KiddEng)

not a problem, i guess it was my fault since i never specified it shouldve been that high even though i expected it to be.

ill get it fixed monday, no biggy.

You saying it shouldnt be angled up or it should be? was kinda hard to understand that sentence with two many nots in there

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you want it as high as you can on the oilpan. angled up is optional, as long as doesnt have to flow upwards to get into your pan then you should be fine.
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Default Re: Is this oil pan tap OK? (Dunn)

yeah sorry wasn't thinking straight when i typed it...damn work gets in the way!

you want it horizontal, and as high up on the pan so it'll clear the oil level on the inside.

like this high up.


doesn't have to be in that location, but atleast that high up.

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the oil WILL NOT go back up into the turbo. you guys will believe anything you hear..
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thats one of the worst oil return taps i've ever seen

please fix it
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Default Re: Is this oil pan tap OK? (.Lloyd Braun)

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike93boost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the oil WILL NOT go back up into the turbo. you guys will believe anything you hear..</TD></TR></TABLE>


im with you homey, BECAUSE the greddy kits have an oil drain that it plumber into the oil drain PLUG, you cant get any lower than that! yes it is located near the pump pickup but it is still the lowest part of the pan
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrbsponge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


im with you homey, BECAUSE the greddy kits have an oil drain that it plumber into the oil drain PLUG, you cant get any lower than that! yes it is located near the pump pickup but it is still the lowest part of the pan </TD></TR></TABLE>

as long as the turbo is above the oil pan, gravity should keep it lower - i cant see how it could possibly travel BACK UP the line 3 or 4 inches?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Sketch_hs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats one of the worst oil return taps i've ever seen

please fix it</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks for the reply, good to see some are still dicks here.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dunn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

as long as the turbo is above the oil pan, gravity should keep it lower - i cant see how it could possibly travel BACK UP the line 3 or 4 inches?</TD></TR></TABLE>

WE ARENT SAYING IT WILL GO BACK TO THE TURBO

THE oil will not Drain into the pan...
Old 03-10-2006, 07:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Topdawgg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


THE oil will not Drain into the pan...</TD></TR></TABLE>

because.... theres oil in there?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Topdawgg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">WE ARENT SAYING IT WILL GO BACK TO THE TURBO

THE oil will not Drain into the pan...</TD></TR></TABLE>

its something called oil pressure. read up on it.

you guys are amazing.
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Default Re: (mike93boost)

if the drain is too low on the pan, the oil will build up in the return line and not have enough downward pressure (gravity in this case) to actually push the oil down and raise the oil level. i had this problem with a T25 and it ended up blowing out the exhaust seal and oil filled my downpipe.

heres mine



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Old 03-10-2006, 08:43 PM
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i sense sarcasm... but are you actually asking that question?

oil backed up in my turbo for sure, i relocated the drain and it was fine.


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the oil WILL NOT go back up into the turbo. you guys will believe anything you hear..





Modified by CRX_DOHC_ZC at 1:43 AM 3/11/2006
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nice paintings...very informative...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX_DOHC_ZC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the oil WILL NOT go back up into the turbo. you guys will believe anything you hear..
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it happened to me
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM_Risa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">nice paintings...very informative...</TD></TR></TABLE>

I totally agree, good Job guys!

As for the oil return, look around on HT for a use pre-tapped oil pan. Or buy a new one and start over but make that fitting straight into the oil pan instead of angeld. Anyway good luck man.
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Think of the oil level in the pan. Now think of the oil level in the drain tube. It can't ever get higher than the level of the oil in the pan. You can use that shitty brass return line and it will most likley work fine.

There isn't any pressure (worth noting) in the pan to the dumbshit who said there was.



What forces the oil up and into the turbo? Oh yeah, nothing. The oil in the drain tube will remain at the level of oil in the pan. Ever seen one of those nifty fat seperator things they use for cooking? Think about it and get back to me (unless you don't understand 2nd grade physics, then don't get back to me). This thread sucks, or leaks, err backs up and overflows misinformation everywhere (nasty).
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Default Re: (ham)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ham &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

it happened to me</TD></TR></TABLE>

Jesus guys, it's not that complicated. Oil backup means one of three things:

1. You should have used a smaller feed line (or at least a restrictor).

2. Your turbo sits too low.

3. Your return line is too high.


Odds are, if you're running a -3 feed line or a restrictor, you're not going to have drainage issues.


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