hiiiii i just turboed my del sol, d16z6.. i took it for a drive (no boost gauge) and could not hear the turbo spool, or feel any power, and the bov never did its thing. i checked the manifold for an exhaust leak, seemed fine-then i checked the piping-fine as well and then i checked the wastegate and found a small leak coming from the manifold to wastegate flange..

i took it apart and realized the flange on my manifold was flat, but the wastegate i had has a ring (firering?) and it is not flush with my manifold flange.. (see pic below how ring sticks out).. could this be my problem? would i just need the flange that the fire-ring seats into on the manifold? also if this has anything to do with it- the car does not have the o2 sensor installed, and the VSS is fucked.

tia.

1st pic: ring isnt in yet.


2nd: ring


3rd: ring does not sit flush when on the wastegate.

 

how do you have the ring siting in the wastegate, maybe you have it flipped upside down?

 

the small part of the ring is in the wastegate the bigger part to the manifold

 

the ring is the vavle seat for the wg just put a gasket on ur manifold put the ring on the wg with the seat angle facing the popet and tighten it down itll tighten down flush then it should boost i have ssame wg and had same problem with mine

 

oh god u kids.... the ring isnt suppsoed to seat until u bolt the wastegate down.. that is what puts pressure on the plunger and makes the wastegate seal.

Did u get everything else taken care of?


All go teg, hows ur **** running?

 

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tried that, didnt go down at all..

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adictionbass &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh god u kids.... the ring isnt suppsoed to seat until u bolt the wastegate down.. that is what puts pressure on the plunger and makes the wastegate seal.</TD></TR></TABLE>
josh you should come check it out for me

 

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josh you should come check it out for me </TD></TR></TABLE>

do you have a gasket you n00b?

EDIT: BTW nice bracelet

 

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josh you should come check it out for me </TD></TR></TABLE>

thats a hike

 

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EDIT: BTW nice bracelet </TD></TR></TABLE>

yes i have a gasket, thank you. it's my girlfriends hair ties

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you'll make it. you did it before, no reason why you couldnt help someone out and do it again. especially since i paid you 40bux to put in a oil line.. :thumbups:


if i get this flange to the far left.. and put it on my manifold, could that solve the problem?

 

it should seat as is. Try pushing the plunger in and see if it moves.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by adictionbass &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it should seat as is. Try pushing the plunger in and see if it moves.</TD></TR></TABLE>
plunger is hard as **** to push in....

 

well if the plunger does move, the ring should push into the wastegate and push the plunger in as you bolt the wastegate down

 

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tighten the bitch down and it should seat fine. if it doesnt then im gonna go with bad wastegate on this one

 

i just sat the wastegate down on a table.. put the ring in it, pushed down.. and its flat on the table. im wondering why its not like that on my manifold?? ive bolted the wastegate down as hard as i could.. and it still wont go in perfectly unless the gasket im using is too thick and its making it not go down anymore? now that i think about it this gasket is thick..

and could this actually be the problem why im not getting boost?

 

yeah its kind of tough going down depending on ur wg spring pressure and make sure the ring is in the right way the smaler diamater part of the ring needs to be facing the wg

 

if u can push it flat on a table, then it will bolt flat on the manifold given the flanges arent horribly warped. (they would have to be crazy warped)

 

it can if u have that big of a leak right there like i said i had same problem with mine and it wouldnt boost in first but would in any other gear but not till like 4800 rpms

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ltrostabotch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it can if u have that big of a leak right there like i said i had same problem with mine and it wouldnt boost in first but would in any other gear but not till like 4800 rpms </TD></TR></TABLE>

i heard it spool a little I THINK.. but i dont have a downpipe or anything yet so it was hard to tell.... i just pushed the plunger down and the ring set flat when i did that, but when i let off the ring popped back up again. im wondering if the gasket is ******* with it on the manifold..

 

dont put a gasket between the wastegate and the manifold. Just bolt it straight to the mani.

 

make sure ur flange on ur mani isnt to big for the ring to sit down in there crooked or something like that if its not just tighten it down till the flanges seat together.hehe and get a dp atleast or ur going to have a very black engine bay in about a week

 

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ill try that tonight. but id like you to come check it out soon if you have time.

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for your being a noob.. i appreciate your information, and i'm glad your here to help instead making 400 useless post and not using the search feature like the other noobs. to you sir.

 

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ill try that tonight. but id like you to come check it out soon if you have time.

for your being a noob.. i appreciate your information, and i'm glad your here to help instead making 400 useless post and not using the search feature like the other noobs. to you sir. </TD></TR></TABLE>
np hapy to help might be a noob to this forum but to to cars

 

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i appreciate everyones help. im gonna go play with it tonight and see if i can possibly grind that ring down or tighten the expletive out of it. ill let everyone know whats going on.

 

dont grind it

 

if i would have known u had some lights or whatever to work on it tonight, we probably could have talked to mikey and we could have come down