CiViC SiR

hi,
my jetting is for 200 shots Direct Port on F20B but on dyno i got 80hp ONLY and i got it after i disconnect the fuel solonide coz the car was running too rich, My A/F ratio was (without the fuel solonide) 12.0~12.5, i was using 104 octane fuel and NGK V-Power 9.

CiViC SiR

any help please

CiViC SiR

anyone please

PyroProblem

So the fuel solenoid was disconnected? And your a/f ratios were still in the 12's?

Man you must be running SUPER rich! What did your plugs look like after the runs?

Do you have engine management? Perhaps your timing was too retarded? Is the engine healthy (low leakdown)?

raceACCORDingly

uhm you this rich NA as well?

CiViC SiR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PyroProblem &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So the fuel solenoid was disconnected? And your a/f ratios were still in the 12's?</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, fule pressure @50psi without the fuel solenoid
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Man you must be running SUPER rich! What did your plugs look like after the runs?
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brown without fuel solenide and black with it
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PyroProblem &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Do you have engine management? Perhaps your timing was too retarded? Is the engine healthy (low leakdown)?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Uberdata, i've pulled 2 degrees from the timming, my engine is fine every thing was checked.
my setup is
stock f20b
380 cc injectors
walbro 255 intank
8.8lbs flywheel
aem cranck pully
iceman cold air intake
msd 6al + blaster 2 coil + 8.8 plugs wire
dc sport headers and 2.5 down pipe
centerforce dual f. clutch kit

CiViC SiR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raceACCORDingly &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">uhm you this rich NA as well?</TD></TR></TABLE>
no i put my fuel pressure @33psi

ridewhencan

Pull your nitrous filter to check/clean the screen. What was the bottle pressure?

Also, you are spraying a 200 shot on a stock block!?!

ridewhencan

Hey, also, what foggers and what jetting?

CiViC SiR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ridewhencan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pull your nitrous filter to check/clean the screen. What was the bottle pressure?

Also, you are spraying a 200 shot on a stock block!?!</TD></TR></TABLE>
where is the filter? i'm using a brand new bottle. i have 15lbs nos bottle (the big one) but last time when filled ive told to fill it only with 12lbs and it was showing 900psi on the guage does that have to somthing it.
the pressure came down to 600psi (after alot of waste tests) when i dynoed it without the fuel solenoid and got 80hp only
and yes its a stock block, i know i'm crazy


Modified by CiViC SiR at 5:04 AM 5/7/2005

CiViC SiR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ridewhencan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey, also, what foggers and what jetting?</TD></TR></TABLE>
34 nitrous and 18 fuel on each fogger.
i'm using this fogger

MidShipCivic

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CiViC SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">34 nitrous and 18 fuel on each fogger.
i'm using this fogger
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I'm curious how do you know what jetting will give you so and so horsepower?

FormulaGSR

i'ld refill the bottle. you could have a really crappy fill and be getting mostly air. and i'ld def. step down the shot size untill i figure this out. Also on a setup like that i've fopund its best to run a regulator on the fuel line for the nitrous system so you can fine tune the fuel metering without swapping pills.

ridewhencan

The filter should be between the nitrous solenoid and the nitrous feed line from the tank.

RZFD

Sir!, slowly step away from the nitrous.

mrbsponge

you either have the jets backwards, or something is clogged in the NOS solinoid. because you should definetely get more than 80 out of that.

what solinoids are you using?? are you sure they are capable of flowing that much HP?????

i think your jetting is wrong personally

EVIL TYPE R

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mrbsponge &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you either have the jets backwards, or something is clogged in the NOS solinoid. because you should definetely get more than 80 out of that.

what solinoids are you using?? are you sure they are capable of flowing that much HP?????

i think your jetting is wrong personally</TD></TR></TABLE>

ditto

IROSOLO

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CiViC SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hi,
my jetting is for 200 shots Direct Port on F20B but on dyno i got 80hp ONLY and i got it after i disconnect the fuel solonide coz the car was running too rich, My A/F ratio was (without the fuel solonide) 12.0~12.5, i was using 104 octane fuel and NGK V-Power 9.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why do you want to blow your motor. Thats retarded. You got the jets backwards if you ask me. Switch them and watch it BLOW! 200shot on a stock motor. Your f20B motor cant even handle 125shot on stock internals and your squeezing 200shot. show me pics of your blown motor plz. I want a good laugh.

CiViC SiR

i actually strated with 120 shots but the car was rich as hell and i had jets 34 from my previews setup so i said i would give it a shot and see what happens.
my jets are not backwards.
i'm using power shot soleniods (i know its maximum power is 150 shots only).
and i dont think i have nitrous filter!!!
anyway i refilled my bottle today and it looks alot havier than the previews time so i WILL change my jets to 120 shots and check it again i hope it works fine this time

CiViC SiR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R0ck* &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Sir!, slowly step away from the nitrous.</TD></TR></TABLE>
cheap setup
easy to tune (i think)
Immediate power

hmmm i thik i will stick with it

ridewhencan

I'd be surpirsed if you didn't. It's small. Your nitrous feed line is probably screwed onto it.

RZFD

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CiViC SiR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cheap setup
easy to tune (i think)
Immediate power

hmmm i thik i will stick with it </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was referring to your severe lack of knowledge using it quantified by the fact that you're trying to spray a single stage 200 shot on a stock block F20B. If you're just trying to blow it up just stick the N20 line in the TB and open the bottle.

Vanilla Ic3

Uhhh, is this thread a joke?

Phase Change Racing

Most systems don't run a nitrous filter. Nitrous filters belong on fill stations, between your bottle and solenoid.

CiViC SiR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Vanilla Ic3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uhhh, is this thread a joke?</TD></TR></TABLE>
why is that, coz i faced a problem with my NOS system and some of good guys helped me to fix it. hmmmm where is the joke