New turbo, many problems
Idiots propagate information based on hearsay. You, unfortunately for my pride, and wantboost, and probably one other I can't remember, are speaking from experience. I'm getting mine. And learning from it. So if that's dumb, hell yeah. That's me. But just remember. At least I'm not repeating **** I've been told. And when I know, I've seen it, and I'll be happy to help someone asking,
Almost every person in here has a build thread, bro guy.
Next time you wana blow a motor give it to me and ill blow it but actually make some power in the process
Next time you wana blow a motor give it to me and ill blow it but actually make some power in the process
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yea im only here to help people. I've literally been building racecars and racebikes with my family since birth. my mom worked the hot pits and grid at Road Atlanta while she was pregnant with me and my dad raced there.
i was helping my dad build twin turbo supras at the age of 12, by 14-15 I was on the pit crew of a privateer AMA superbike and supersport team fielding 6 bikes traveling the country. I've also been part of numerous other teams including the factory Yamaha AMA team. I've designed, built, and tuned suspension systems for said race teams with companies like penske, traxxion dynamics, Dan Kyle racing, and ohlins. me and a friend had a huge shop in downtown Atlanta where I built everything from professional drift chassis, audis, supras, skylines, 240s, 350/370zs, 300zx, civics, dsms, svt cobras, etc. you name it we worked on it. I also do track work for FormulaD as well as helping teams repair vehicles during downtime and spend a lot of time working at Road Atlanta and am about to start Corner Marshalling for Atlanta Motorsports Park, right now me and my dad have a 650rwhp 600lbft c6 z06 that sees road course racing weekly, I'm also building a civic, s13, and an 06 Yamaha R1 and am about to start a few more builds and I'm only 27...
I'm even a moderator in this very forum which means I have to have experience in the topic at hand...
I speak from a literal lifetime of experience and want to help others here learn the proper way to things.
you've obviously experienced the wrong way and now hopefully you'll do things the proper way from now on. and honestly if you cut down on the smug, sarcastic, smartass attitude more people will be willing to help you.
i was helping my dad build twin turbo supras at the age of 12, by 14-15 I was on the pit crew of a privateer AMA superbike and supersport team fielding 6 bikes traveling the country. I've also been part of numerous other teams including the factory Yamaha AMA team. I've designed, built, and tuned suspension systems for said race teams with companies like penske, traxxion dynamics, Dan Kyle racing, and ohlins. me and a friend had a huge shop in downtown Atlanta where I built everything from professional drift chassis, audis, supras, skylines, 240s, 350/370zs, 300zx, civics, dsms, svt cobras, etc. you name it we worked on it. I also do track work for FormulaD as well as helping teams repair vehicles during downtime and spend a lot of time working at Road Atlanta and am about to start Corner Marshalling for Atlanta Motorsports Park, right now me and my dad have a 650rwhp 600lbft c6 z06 that sees road course racing weekly, I'm also building a civic, s13, and an 06 Yamaha R1 and am about to start a few more builds and I'm only 27...
I'm even a moderator in this very forum which means I have to have experience in the topic at hand...
I speak from a literal lifetime of experience and want to help others here learn the proper way to things.
you've obviously experienced the wrong way and now hopefully you'll do things the proper way from now on. and honestly if you cut down on the smug, sarcastic, smartass attitude more people will be willing to help you.
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I mean it is fun but you have to want to do it. when you're a corner marshal on a race track during an event like FormulaD you are literally holding people's lives in your hands during an accident.
it's not all play, for every day of racing the z06 spends about a week on the lift being completely gone through... but I enjoy that part too so it's not all bad.
it's not all play, for every day of racing the z06 spends about a week on the lift being completely gone through... but I enjoy that part too so it's not all bad.

Originally Posted by wantboost
...if you cut down on the smug, sarcastic, smartass attitude more people will be willing to help you
you know what....on second thought, im not even going to dignify that with a response detailing what all ive done.
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My current setup.
Let's go a little farther back regarding my experience directly with D-series shall we?

My old daily driven 212whp water-to-air setup. Drove it for 2 years and converted it back to stock to get money for the car above.
But wait, it gets better.

Engine look familiar?

402whp 286wtq on E85, driven for 3 years before that at 325whp on pump. This picture is also 4 years old now. I sold everything in good working order to change to a K.
Point being, we know what the **** we're talking about. You need to do the research and understand what you're doing. I said you probably already ruined the engine, and I undoubtedly am right. Even if it doesn't show up on a test now, the engine will inevitably fail much sooner than you expect. I also suspect that you are lying about the compression to save face, but then again I have a K-series to worry about so I don't really care either.
Get the damn thing tuned. Since you don't know how, it would behoove you to get a hold of someone who does and pay them the money to do it for you. Don't be dumb enough to drive it there, tow it.
****. Welp. Humble pie? Compression was for real. So was the advice. In the end it didn't matter. My rods were angry with the pressure and decided to take it out on my oil pan. Anyway, I assumed too much, so for that I apologize.
My stubborn *** friend is the same way. Had a turbo civic, blew the turbo. Put a MUCH larger turbo on it and drove around on the BASEMAP for the old smaller turbo. Fried the motor a day later. How you've gotten so lucky (unless the motor is screwed already), I'll never know.
Its never good to hear that it blew up, even if it does mean we were right. This is a shitty lesson to learn, but a mistake i doubt you will repeat. D series have pencil-thin rods which shouldnt be trusted beyond 230-240whp. If it was tuned, you would know your "safe zone" for the stock engine. Honestly, i'm surprised the rods let go...i would have bet money on a ringland instead
Well all coins are two sided, silver lining, etc etc. I got offered a d16z6, h22, or f23 from a junk yard with whatever other parts I want for the same price. I'm thinking I should boost (and tow and tune) the f because of the sleeves, but I've got a cheap turbo, and maybe it'd be better to run like 4 pounds on the h. I kind of want to use the system I put a grand into. Any tips? I want 250 hp, 300 would be better. More than that and I wouldn't know what to do with it. I could probably put another grand in after getting the engine and parts for a rebuild or swap parts I need. And everyone loves torque, but I'd be more impressed by a monster with rubber on the ground.
I'm going to run through them all with a battery and seeing if they spin, what compression I can see, and whatever else I can figure from them. My question is an "all things being equal" type thing. If the f has a hole in it, I'll have to narrow my options.
I'm going to run through them all with a battery and seeing if they spin, what compression I can see, and whatever else I can figure from them. My question is an "all things being equal" type thing. If the f has a hole in it, I'll have to narrow my options.
Between those options, I would take the H22 and boost it (responsibly) in stock form. If you shot for between 250-300whp, it should easily hold up to the abuse. The problem with H series is the FRM sleeves which means, if you plan to build it in the future, you also have to sleeve it.
Since you already have the setup, the Z6 would be the easiest option. Just tune it correctly and limit your power goals to the 220-240whp range max. Any more than that requires building it...which for a D is also quite cheap. Search Vitara builds and you'll see what i mean
Since you already have the setup, the Z6 would be the easiest option. Just tune it correctly and limit your power goals to the 220-240whp range max. Any more than that requires building it...which for a D is also quite cheap. Search Vitara builds and you'll see what i mean
Between those options, I would take the H22 and boost it (responsibly) in stock form. If you shot for between 250-300whp, it should easily hold up to the abuse. The problem with H series is the FRM sleeves which means, if you plan to build it in the future, you also have to sleeve it.
An F23 is 'basically' a single cam H22...its like the D series - the cheaper, single cam version. The added displacement isn't going to amount to much when you consider that the head flows worse than the H22. There is a bastard combination of the H and F called the G23...if you want to frankenstein those two engines together, you can have the best of both worlds. To keep it simple, get the H22
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I knew something was damaged
sucks you had to learn the hard way but I highly doubt you'll make the same mistake twice
sucks you had to learn the hard way but I highly doubt you'll make the same mistake twice





