honda9369

ok if u have read my other threads u no that after i throttle it stalls. its still stalls. i had just put new autolite 3922 spark plugs in there. only drove about 15 miles on them,plus i ran it in the driveway a couple of times. well anyway i pulled the plugs on 1 and 4 to check them out and they were pretty black. i believe that means that its running real lean what do i do? please help,my car has been down for 2 months.

honda9369

Cramerox

black means its running rich. I havent read your other post so i dont know what your cars been up to. But first thing first, leak down, comp test. Why exactly has your car been down? Turbo install? what codes are you throwing...

better questions get better answers...

coos

TPS, if it happens as soon as you hit the gas. When your tps goes bad the computer will think you are WOT all the time when you hit the gas. You need to describe your problem a little better. When, Where, How, To what extent.

flip1199

like already stated black is rich. maybe your flooding your engine when u press the throttle causing the stalling/bogging. what's your fuel setup? is it tuned?

honda9369

well im turboed. there is only 34,000 miles on it. i had a o2 cel come up so i replaced it warmed the car up, took it for a small ride no codes. then today i warmed it up reved it alittle then bam,cel came up its the o2 sensor agian.. i just got done regappin the plugs cuz they were set at factory settings so i gapped them to .030 and now im goin to take it for a small ride hopfully that will do it. b back in like 15 mins

honda9369

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by coos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">TPS, if it happens as soon as you hit the gas. When your tps goes bad the computer will think you are WOT all the time when you hit the gas. You need to describe your problem a little better. When, Where, How, To what extent. </TD></TR></TABLE> oh my bad it stalls after throttle like when im coming to a stop. back in 15 mins

boostincoupe

Put some NGK BKR6E, BKR7E, ZFR6F-11, or ZFR7F-11's in there instead of that Autolite ****.

Buy the little gapper gauge for $1 and gap them to .030".

honda9369

yea i just got done gappin them to .031 the auto lites where reccommened buy dynamics motorsports.

Cramerox

so was your car running before you changed the plugs?

Trailz-EX

your getting way to much fuel in your engine... you got a bad fuel pressure regulator maybe.. could be a vacum leak or something..your comp is giving the o2 code cause your coating it with gas.. check your pressure regulator / fmu / throttle position sensor, hell your timing could be off and its firing to late in the cycle. if thats not it youll have to tune down your fuel delivery then go from there

honda9369

ok i just got back from tha ride after regapping the plugs, it runs alot better now and it only stalled once. i boosted like 6 times no stall. so now i have to figure out the o2. so all that richness took out my sensor. i put a new one in havent even driven it yet and i get the cell. u think the fpr is bad? also when i took out the plug after runnin it they wernt wet. im thinkin they were coated earlyer when the first one went bad. when i took it for a ride it ran great. but it still sound like the timing is a little off. i just set the timing 3 weeks ago but its not on the retard side like it should be

honda9369

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cramerox &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so was your car running before you changed the plugs?</TD></TR></TABLE> it didnt really make much of a difference. the old plugs were on the hot side though so i changed them to colder ones. regapping did help for sure. i guess i should get it tuned and see if that helps

honda9369

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Trailz-EX

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by honda9369 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i guess i should get it tuned and see if that helps
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honda9369

i thank you guys for the fast response. it really sucks to be without the honda for 2 months. about my o2 sensor, if i clean the black **** off do u think it will work again. its brand new.

honda9369

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Trailz-EX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">your getting way to much fuel in your engine... you got a bad fuel pressure regulator maybe.. could be a vacum leak or something..your comp is giving the o2 code cause your coating it with gas.. check your pressure regulator / fmu / throttle position sensor, hell your timing could be off and its firing to late in the cycle. if thats not it youll have to tune down your fuel delivery then go from there
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so with my car running rich,would it destroy my brand new o2 sensor or can it be cleaned off and used again?

honda9369

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostincoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Put some NGK BKR6E, BKR7E, ZFR6F-11, or ZFR7F-11's in there instead of that Autolite ****.

Buy the little gapper gauge for $1 and gap them to .030". </TD></TR></TABLE>
i went and got those ngks you were talkin about but im not goin to put them in untill i resolve the running rich problem

underpressure02

You can clean your o2 sensor. Just get some carb cleaner or gum out spray it off.

Do you have a fuel pressure guage? To see what your FP is at? It sounds like you are running pig rich and fouling the plugs. Do you see lots of black smoke coming out when you jump on it?
What are you using for fuel mgt?
Do you have a wideband?
What size injectors do you have?

Go out and do a WOT 4th gear pull pull over shut car off and pull the plugs. Don't let it sit there and idle do the pull and shut down. See what the plugs look like.

honda9369

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by underpressure02 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can clean your o2 sensor. Just get some carb cleaner or gum out spray it off.

Do you have a fuel pressure guage? To see what your FP is at? It sounds like you are running pig rich and fouling the plugs. Do you see lots of black smoke coming out when you jump on it?
What are you using for fuel mgt?
Do you have a wideband?
What size injectors do you have?

Go out and do a WOT 4th gear pull pull over shut car off and pull the plugs. Don't let it sit there and idle do the pull and shut down. See what the plugs look like. </TD></TR></TABLE>
i have stock fpr, i cant see if im blowin black smoke while driving.theres none while idling,fuel man-emanage,no wideband yet,310cc injecters

underpressure02

r u tuned? What kind of base map are you running off of? Is the map even for 310 injectors?

honda9369

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by underpressure02 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">r u tuned? What kind of base map are you running off of? Is the map even for 310 injectors? </TD></TR></TABLE>
i havent got tuned yet(dont have the money) and this doesnt mean **** comin from greddy tech support but they told me the 310cc will work good with the emanage. but they have lied to me b4. so it sound like all i need is a dyno tune

underpressure02

I would try and see if you can get a wideband hooked up to get an idea what your a/f is. You are prob pig rich at idle and going lean in boost. So after you get off the throttle you run pig rich again and start fouling out your plugs.

honda9369

so do i need a wide band to get dyno tuned. cuz at the moment i cant afford both.

underpressure02

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by honda9369 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so do i need a wide band to get dyno tuned. cuz at the moment i cant afford both.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No the dyno should have a wideband. Make sure they is not some hidden fee for them to use that. I know some dyno places will say it is X amount for the dyno.

Then you get there and they have a fee to strap you down and another fee to use the wideband and crap like that.