Need help! Problems installing CPR 440cc injectors and the dreaded block grinding!!!

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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 02:32 PM
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Problem #1 - Block Grinding: I have a log style manifold and when I test fit everything, the turbo hits the block pretty bad. I think it's hitting worse on that vertical section just to the right of that (drain plug?) bolt. I was wondering, how much can I grind away at that w/o putting a hole in it?


Problem #2 - Injectors: the tops of the injectors wont fit into the fuel rail. It seems like the 0-ring is way too big. When I push the fuel rail down onto the injectors there's still like a 3/4" gap before the rail is all the way down. How do i get around that?
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 02:49 PM
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Do you have any pictures???
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 03:07 PM
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This is about where the block needs to be shaved:

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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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its not the o-rings on the injectors its the Hole top of the injector including the o-rings up for some quick help were in the process of the install
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 04:26 PM
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cant grind too much in that area, its maybe 1/4 thick. who made the log >?
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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F-Max manifold, CPR Injectors
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Old Apr 5, 2004 | 06:21 PM
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what kinda turbo u runnin ? the Fmax desin theries to not need any grinding at all.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 05:46 AM
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T3/T04e
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 07:09 AM
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T3/T04e
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 07:14 AM
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either you have something wrong t3/t04e with fmax should not need any shaving maybe a little but not where you are pointing at .
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 07:15 AM
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either you have something wrong t3/t04e with fmax should not need any shaving maybe a little but not where you are pointing at .
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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Here's the block, it still needs to be ground down some more. How much further can I go? Is that whole vertical section solid, or is it pretty thin?




I've got more pics and questions to post but i'm runnin late, stay tuned till 9:30
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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you should not have to cut that with any manifold for bseries not evne drag nor inline pro nor fmax should cut in that section of your block. you either are installing it wrong or doing something crzy.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18bturbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you should not have to cut that with any manifold for bseries not evne drag nor inline pro nor fmax should cut in that section of your block. you either are installing it wrong or doing something crzy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yea jan i dunno man i dont remember it hitting there i thought it was more towards the bolt/plug. bump it up for the help we only have 1 week to get the turbo on and running...
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 05:44 PM
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It's definately hitting there...






and this isn't good, is it... How do you shorten a braided line?
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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your oil return is all bad tooo low
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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Yea I know, that's how I got it. That's why I asked "how do you shorten a braided line?" Do you know?

and back to the block... How much more can be shaved off?
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 07:46 PM
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He means that it's too low on the oil pan. It'll back up.

You can fix the line by removing the hose-end and trimming the hose back. See Earl's, Aeroquip's, or Goodridge's site for instructions on installing hose-ends.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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Once I shorten the line, will it still be bad? Like is it useable, or do I NEED to get a new pan/fix this one?
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 08:13 PM
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se if any company makes an extention for the turbo and manifold. im sure that many people who make the manifold can rig something up inbetween, so it doesnt hit the block. this is by far the worst i've seen yet.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 08:15 PM
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You can either weld shut/cap that return bung or get a new pan to weld a new bung into.

The line needs to be shortened regardless b/c it has that dip in the line that will only get worse if you move the bung on the pan further up, but I wouldn't shorten it until you get the bung placement on the pan sorted out first.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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Damn, the problems just keep pileing up... Does anyone know if that part of the block is solid or not? I dont think I have much more grinding to do, just a little.
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 08:53 PM
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see if you can add a couple gaskets between the manifold and block to give you some space. stop the grinding! its the webbing that usually needs the grinding not that part
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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Old Apr 6, 2004 | 10:13 PM
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Don't grind down anymore. Get a spacer for the manifold. With the oil return u can remove the earls fittings on the end. But dont grind anymore.
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